Jason Grechanik spent nearly a decade apprenticing in Amazonian tobacco medicine with the Shipibo in Peru.

He joins us to discuss both what the medicine of tobacco offers and what it asks of us.

What is sacred tobacco, and what isn't it? Tabaquero Jason Grechanik spent nearly a decade with the Shipibo in Peru and apprenticed in Amazonian tobacco medicine. We get into why tobacco is called the plant of the creator, what a tobacco dieta asks of you, and how Nicotiana rustica became the cigarette.

Then I push back: dependence, daily hapé, the "dizziness" that convinces people a plant told them they're ready to serve, the deaths that come from getting the dose wrong, and why "natural" doesn't mean safe.

‼️ This episode is educational. It does not recommend using tobacco or nicotine in any form. ‼️

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• 🌿 Jason's work: nicotianarustica.org · Podcast: The Universe Within
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Episode Breakdown

• (0:00) Opening
• (3:37) Ad - Amentara
• (4:13) Interview Begins
• (5:06) From a Virginia tobacco farm to the Amazon
• (13:27) Tobacco, the plant of the creator
• (21:44) What tobacco heals, and la dieta cura
• (32:50) Ad - Amentara
• (34:42) What tobacco asks of you
• (42:41) Drink first, smoke later
• (46:42) Never drink tobacco on your own
• (49:19) Rustica vs Tabacum: how tobacco became the cigarette
• (56:44) Healing codes and orphans of time and space
• (1:00:52) Patreon Thanks - Patreon
• (1:02:59) Addiction, dependence, and daily hapé
• (1:08:49) Mareación: the dizziness you have to master
• (1:13:52) Rat Park and the hole we try to fill
• (1:21:54) Natural doesn't mean safe
• (1:25:42) Everything has a cost
• (1:34:48) Follow up links
• (1:36:26) Outro

Psychotherapist Marc Aixalà of ICEERS explains what psychedelic integration is, and what it isn't.

Mark offers some metaphors to help psychedelic integration, his seven dimensions of integration, and outlines why each of these has to be custom tailored to the needs of the individual person.

Marc also offers us his perspective as to why integration is not psychotherapy, and why it should end once the person no longer needs a practitioner. Finally, he makes the case that preparation matters even more than integration, because psychedelic healing is a process, not an event.

• (00:00) What is psychedelic integration?
• (01:46) Metaphors, dimensions, and needs
• (04:47) The seven dimensions of integration
• (05:49) Why integration isn't psychotherapy
• (08:17) Why integration should have an end
• (10:43) Preparation matters more
• (12:54) Healing is a process, not an event
• (16:49) Outro

This is a clip from 'An In-Depth Exploration Of Psychedelic Integration | Marc Aixalà', Adventures Through The Mind 202.

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What is it actually like to take ibogaine? Jonathan Dickinson, CEO of Ambio Life Sciences and author of Ibogaine and the Bicameral Mind, takes us inside the flood dose: why you can't stand up for hours, why it's closer to a waking dream than a psychedelic trip, and what the people he's treated say they saw.

We also get into the book's big ideas (Lacan's "the Real" and Julian Jaynes's bicameral mind), why the benefits can arrive even when nothing seems to happen, and the real medical risk, including deaths.

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📚 Jonathan's book and work: jonathandickinson.ca · Ambio Life Sciences: ambio.life

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Episode Breakdown

• (0:00) Opening
• (0:52) Ad
• (1:34) Interview Begins
• (4:11) What ibogaine is, and where it comes from
• (7:12) An oneirogen, not a psychedelic
• (14:03) Inside a flood dose
• (20:22) Visions, hallucinations, and false memories
• (26:35) Nobody says ibogaine is easy
• (35:19) Lacan, the Real, and why discomfort heals
• (44:33) The bicameral mind
• (56:04) Ad
• (57:14) No, I think it gets weirder
• (1:06:46) What to believe about what you saw
• (1:15:22) Ancestors and the realm of the dead
• (1:19:52) Leo Zeff, the Secret Chief
• (1:26:06) Patreon Thanks
• (1:28:04) When nothing happens, and it works anyway
• (1:38:28) The medical risk, and people have died
• (1:40:25) Leaving the country, and what it costs
• (1:48:49) Follow up links
• (1:52:05) Outro