Keila V. Dawson has partnered with fellow creatives Jeanette Bradley and Lindsay Metcalf to tell the stories of young activists through the power of poetry. No Voice Too Small, No World Too Big, and No Brain The Same feature kids and teens making a difference for our planet. Keila and her team picked a different poet to celebrate this extraordinary individuals and the results are incredibly moving. (And we learned so many new things!)

A poem may seem like a quiet way to express oneself, but in the hands of these talented writers, the poems in this series of books speak up in ways you won't forget any time soon.

Listen in to discover:

• Where the original idea for these poetry anthologies came from
• The influence her work as an educator, activist, and genealogist had on this project
• How they sold the first book on proposal
• The process used for matching poets to their subjects in each book
• How they ended up with different types of poems in each book
• The design of each page and it houses the poem, a sidebar of more biographical information, and a quote from each subject
• The types of backmatter included—from a glossary to types of poems to author bios
• Additional facts the illustrations provide
• How the sequels came to be
• What they hope kids get out of these books
• A peek at a poem in the newest book in the series
• How to be included in a poem anthology
• Poetry resources
• Poetry practice
• How Keila came to write a poem for the second book
• The difference between a poem and a picture book

Books mentioned in this episode*:

• No Voice Too Small edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley
• No World Too Big edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley
• No Brain The Same edited by Lindsay H. Metcalf, Keila V. Dawson, and Jeanette Bradley
• King Cake Baby by Keila V. Dawson and Vernon Smith
• Yumbo Gumbo by Keila V. Dawson and Katie Crumpton
• Opening the Road by Keila V. Dawson and Alleanna Harris
• Coming in the future: How We Got Here: Conversation with United States History and Annbelle's Beignet Cafe, a sequel to Yumbo Gumbo
• The Rabbit Listened by Cori Doerrfeld

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Michelle Cusolito's love for writing nonfiction picture books is palpable and, we dare say, contagious. In this episode, she generously shares her process, where her ideas have come from, and how she follows the muse—even when she's on deadline for a different project.

No matter what you write, Michelle's interview is a good reminder to write what you love... because that's when the passion shines through.

Listen in to discover:

• Why Michelle is drawn to writing about the ocean
• How she came to write a latest picture book about trees (that aren't in the ocean!)
• The information she gives to her illustrators (and what she leaves out)
• How she researches her books
• The importance of experiencing things firsthand when she's writing about a topic
• Her recommendations to writers who can't travel to do in-person research
• Where science is happening (Hint: it might be closer than you think!)
• How she organizes her research
• Her love of notebooks and working analog-style
• Nonfiction author Beth Anderson
• The beauty of spare text
• How In the World of Whales was inspired by a real-life event
• What made her stop everything to write the first draft
• How the 12 x 12 Creativity Book Group works
• How to handle critiques
• How she was able to go on a weeks-long expedition with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute to do research for her books
• Why it's important to make genuine connections as a writer

Books mentioned in this episode*:

• In the World of Whales by Michelle Cusolito and Jessica Lanan
• Flying Deep by Michelle Cusolito and Nicole Wong
• Diving Deep by Michelle Cusolito and Nicole Wong
• A Window into the Ocean Twilight Zone by Michelle Cusolito
• Jellyfish Scientist by Michelle Cusolito and Ellen Rooney
• Rooted in Wonder by Michelle Cusolito and Mayra Wright
• Song After Song: The Musical Life of Julie Andrews by Julie Hedlund and Ilaria Urbinati
• Reimagining Your Nonfiction Picture Book by Kirsten W. Larson
• Giant Squid by Candace Fleming and Eric Rohmann

Get 25% off Michelle Cusolito's Rigorous Research webinar (co-presented with Charlesbridge editor Karen Boss) here: www.12x12challenge.com/michelle

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The National Poetry Month celebration continues! 12 x 12 charter member, poet, and author Lisa Rogers shares how poetry comes into play when writing picture books—even picture book biographies.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• What it's like to be a poet and write a picture book about a poet
• How she finds the emotional throughline in her stories
• Why she's drawn to writing about creative people
• The impact of writing her John Cage book in second person
• Why she writes picture book biographies
• Why she didn't give up writing picture books
• The steps she took to stay committed to the writing craft
• How she determines the stories she's meant to write
• Why reading and writing poetry helps with writing picture books
• How word choice influences her writing choices
• The importance of creating mental images in your stories
• How sounds influence her word choice

Books mentioned in this episode*:

• 16 Words: William Carlos Williams and "The Red Wheelbarrow" by Lisa Rogers and Chuck Groenink
• Beautiful Noise: The Music of John Cage by Lisa Rogers and Il Sung Na
• Joan Mitchell Paints a Symphony by Lisa Rogers and Stacy Innerst
• Woody's Words: Woodrow Wilson Rawls and Where the Red Fern Grows by Lisa Rogers and Susan Reagan
• Hound Won't Go by Lisa Rogers and Meg Ishihara
• All the Small Poems and Fourteen More by Valerie Worth and Natalie Babbitt
• Gnomes and Ungnomes: Poems of Hidden Creatures
• Ode to Grapefruit: How James Earl Jones Found His Voice by Kari Lavelle and Bryan Collier

Get the 12 x 12 Poetry Playbook for Picture Book Writers HERE: https://12x12challenge.com/poetryplaybook

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