Steph joins me in hosting as we talk to Jessica about music and emotionalism, really bad mission trips and miraculous toes, and the power of friendship!

If you want to hear more about Jessica's YWAM DTS experience, check out the No Culty Vibes podcast episode titled "The CULT of YWAM: Amanda's Story Part Two NIKO" at https://open.spotify.com/episode/6njeLSlphqmmCw5Ve8sfLT?si=ZpWLXGSAQuao5zNX14uPnQ or wherever you like to listen to podcasts.

Also, we make some references to a previous episode that didn't get published due to recording problems, in case you go looking for it.

Also also, we recorded this in August of 2024 but I'm publishing it in August of 2025 because doing basic things is hard.

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Ehb and I finally sit down so I can grill him on his life story. It's a jam-packed joyride full of twists and turns and explosions. Sort of.

This is also Ehb's last episode cohosting, so we shed some tears, reflect on the last year of doing this, and talk about the future of the podcast.

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Heads up! Our guest this episode is still a Christian, but has church trauma just like the rest of us. We get into some theological discussion in this episode after about the 45-minute mark. If hearing someone talk about why they're still a Christian doesn't sound fun to you, you'll want to skip to the peaceful resolution around the 70-minute mark.

We talk to David about odd and immature aspects of the Charismatic church, the loneliness of losing community, and philosophical and theological fun stuff.

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