Sorry for the delay dear listeners! But it will be worth the wait. Today Pastors Mary and Elise welcome Ginger Cutrell to share her experience of being a woman with a transgender experience. Ginger opens up about her story and helps us navigate how pastors can better support their congregants and advocate for all of God's children!

Rabbi Lizzie of Miskahn Chicago is back! We continue our conversation about Christian and Jewish relationships, the difference and commonalities of our faiths and dive into the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Pastors Elise and Mary welcome the wonderful Rabbi Lizzi Heydemann from Mishkan Chicago! It is such a full and compelling conversation about the work of spiritual leadership, building community, interfaith partnerships, and diving into historical and current conflicts in the middle east that affect so many. We barely scratch the surface of what Rabbi Lizzi has to offer and we can't wait to have her on again soon!

Pr Elise and Pr Mary welcome long time family friend and great pastor, Rob Myalis to talk about the future of the church, the pastor shortage, and where we go from here.

Pastors Mary and Elise talk Thanksgiving, talking politics over dinner, leading congregations in this crazy time and our reactions to the presidential election.

Pastor AJ Houseman joins Pastors Elise and Mary to share her story as well as talk all things podcasting! How is podcasting shaping modern ministry? Take a listen and find out!

Pastors Elise and Mary are thrilled to have Anne Stewart and Thais Carter from Princeton Theological Seminary on to talk about the executive leadership program, Iron Sharpening Iron! We talk about the programs history, how it works, as well as women in leadership, seminary education and Elise gushes for about 20 minutes about how much the program means to her! If you want more info on this amazing visit the website: isi.ptsem.edu

In our 20th (!) episode we talk about our experience helping to lead the Wild Women Retreat at Camp Lutheridge back in March. We cover what our Bible studies were about but also different body image issues we both have faced in our lives.