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X's and Joe's, part of the Back Home Network, is a podcast that lets you eavesdrop on an ongoing, 25-year conversation between two friends and Indiana University grads who have an unusual passion for exploring the formula for winning in today’s modern college basketball.

Hosted by Bob Moats (cbobmoats) and Mike Wiemuth (iu-in-philly), this show examines trends in recruiting, metrics, strategy, and coaching -- with an emphasis on debunking myths and challenging popular assumptions.

And while Bob and Mike's rooting interests may lie with the Hoosiers, this show takes an expansive view of the college basketball landscape beyond just Bloomington.

In other words, it's a show for ALL serious college hoops fans who truly appreciate the nuances of the sport.

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  • [58] Why Are IU Fans So Angry?
    Apr 24 2026

    In this episode of Xs and Joes, Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth dig into a topic many Indiana fans can feel but struggle to explain: why so much frustration around IU basketball now feels deeper than just wins and losses. Using recent reactions, historical context, and a few memorable pop-culture references, they explore how decades of unmet expectations have shaped the current mood around the program.

    Why IU Fans Are So Angry

    The conversation starts with the obvious question—and goes well beyond the surface.

    • Why this frustration feels more like exhaustion than outrage
    • How years of near-misses, resets, and false starts compound over time
    • The difference between a disappointed fan base and a burned-out one
    • Why anger often shows up when expectations still exist

    The Weight of Three Decades

    Indiana’s history matters—but so does everything since.

    The guys look at how few truly memorable seasons IU has had in the modern era, and why long stretches of mediocrity hit differently at a program with this much tradition.

    • How optimism slowly erodes
    • Why “just be patient” lands differently now than it once did

    Dusty May, Braden Smith, and the Ones That Got Away

    Recent tournament storylines reopened old wounds.

    The episode explores why certain names trigger such strong reactions from IU fans—and why those reactions are often about more than one player or one coach.

    Can Darian DeVries Change the Mood?

    There’s real momentum from the portal haul, but skepticism remains.

    • Why this offseason has created genuine intrigue
    • What still has to happen before fans fully buy in
    • How year two could shift the entire tone around the program

    This Isn’t Just an Indiana Problem

    IU may be unique in some ways—but not in this one.

    The discussion branches into Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, Nebraska, and other fan bases dealing with the same collision of history, money, and modern expectations.

    Bottom line:

    This episode is about more than fan anger. It’s about what happens when a proud program goes too long without giving people a reason to believe—and what it will take to earn that belief back.

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  • [56] 2026 NCAA Bracket with Andy Bottoms
    Mar 27 2026

    In this episode of Xs and Joes, Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth are joined by Andy Bottoms to unpack the 2026 NCAA Tournament bracket, the selection process, and what it all reveals about where college basketball is headed next.

    Bracketology Reality Check

    The guys open with Andy reflecting on another Selection Sunday—and why even strong bracket projections can still “grade out” poorly.

    • Why bracketology success doesn’t always match leaderboard results
    • The surprising disconnect between predictive accuracy and final rankings
    • A tongue-in-cheek case for “re-scoring” brackets based on tournament outcomes
    • Early hints that this year’s committee may have valued things differently than expected


    Committee Philosophy & Process

    A deeper dive into how the selection committee actually operates—and where subjectivity still sneaks in.

    • Whether the committee truly follows a strict process or has hidden preferences
    • Where bias might show up (and where it likely doesn’t)
    • Why controversial matchups are usually dictated by rules—not conspiracy
    • The one area of the bracket where human judgment still matters most


    What the Committee Really Values Now

    This is where things get interesting—and where Andy outlines a subtle but important shift.

    • The growing importance of “wins above bubble” in getting selected
    • Why seeding may now lean more on predictive metrics like KenPom
    • Case studies that highlight the tension between results and efficiency
    • A key question: Are quality wins losing influence in favor of efficiency metrics?


    Mid-Majors, Scheduling, and the System Problem

    A fascinating conversation about the structural challenges facing non–power conference teams.

    • The scheduling paradox: no one wants to play you… but you’re punished if you don’t
    • Why some programs embrace tough non-conference games—and others avoid them
    • How newer metrics may actually help mid-majors get a fair shot
    • The hidden tradeoffs every program faces when building a schedule


    Tournament Takeaways (So Far)

    After the first weekend, the bracket has been relatively calm—but that might be a feature, not a bug.

    • Why there were fewer shocking upsets than usual
    • The one result that did stand out—and why it happened
    • How style-of-play mismatches can still flip games
    • A bigger-picture insight about how the tournament may be evolving


    The Future of Bracketology

    The episode closes with a thought-provoking look ahead.

    • Could bracketology eventually become fully algorithm-driven?
    • What we’d gain in accuracy—and lose in drama
    • The tension between data-driven decisions and human nuance
    • Why the future might shift the drama from Selection Sunday to the games themselves


    Bottom line:

    This episode isn’t just about this bracket—it’s about how the entire system is evolving. And whether we’re ready for a world where the madness is a little less mysterious… and a lot more calculated.


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  • [53] What Is Darian DeVries Running? (with Tony Adragna & Brian Tonsoni)
    Feb 20 2026

    Indiana basketball fans have spent the season trying to figure out exactly what Darian DeVries’ offense looks like — and this episode dives deep into the answer.

    Bob Moats and Mike Wiemuth welcome Brian Tonsoni and Tony Adragna for a coach-level breakdown of IU’s evolving offensive concepts, player development trends, and why the program’s foundation may already be stronger than the record suggests.

    The Evolution of Modern College Offense

    The conversation begins with a wide-angle look at how college basketball offenses have changed in recent years. From continuity ball screens to five-out spacing and hybrid systems blending Princeton, Euro, and modern spread concepts, the group explores how today’s best teams mix old ideas with new spacing principles — and why versatility and skill across positions now matter more than size alone.

    So… What Is DeVries Actually Running?

    Rather than a rigid playbook, Indiana’s offense appears built around concepts and reads.

    The hosts explain how DeVries organizes families of actions that allow players to react to defensive coverage instead of executing robotic sets. Through film examples, they highlight screen-to-screener actions, flare concepts, and counters that evolve throughout games — evidence of intentional design even when possessions don’t end in points.

    Optionality vs. Robotic Basketball

    One recurring theme: IU’s offense feels different because every action contains multiple outcomes. Screeners slip, shooters relocate during drives, and reads develop in real time, making the system harder to scout.

    The panel contrasts this flexibility with previous IU offenses, noting how modern spacing and simultaneous movement create advantages even without elite downhill creators.

    Player Development Showing Up in Real Time

    Lamar Wilkerson becomes a central case study in development within the system. The coaches discuss his progression from cutter to driver to multi-level scorer, emphasizing improved strength, balance, and playing off two feet.

    The conversation expands to broader roster growth, suggesting several players have improved throughout the season despite structural limitations.

    The Foundation vs. the Roster Ceiling

    While praising scheme and adaptability, the group agrees IU still lacks certain roster pieces — particularly a consistent downhill creator and rim protection. Still, the coaching staff’s adjustments, scouting preparation, and conceptual clarity signal a program building toward sustainability rather than short-term fixes.

    Modern Shot Selection and the Three-Point Debate

    The episode closes with discussion of Indiana’s three-point volume relative to elite offenses nationally. Rather than criticizing shot totals, the hosts frame success around shot quality, spacing, and roster versatility — arguing that improved personnel could unlock the full efficiency of DeVries’ system.

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