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Di: Drew Brown and Paul Thompson
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Two Dope Boys in a Navy jet. The Wingmen Show is a weekly podcast about challenges and opportunities in everyday life. Your hosts are two guys born in Harlem, New York previously unknown to each other. Separately, they became Navy pilots flying high performance jet aircraft on and off of aircraft carriers patrolling the world’s oceans. Their paths did not cross formally until they ended up flying for the same airline after their active-duty military service had ended. They have a wide range of experiences spanning the worlds of basketball and boxing. Drew’s father is Drew Bundini Brown, Muhammad Ali’s Wingman and coined the iconic phrase “Float Like A Butterfly Sting, Like A Bee". Martial Arts and Show Business are also areas of mutual interest. Drew has been featured nationally on television programs such as the Donahue Show and the Today Show. He has also appeared in hundreds of newspapers and magazines. Both are published authors as well as former Navy jet pilots and Commercial Airline Pilots; they retired after having flown the Boeing 777 airliner. The cultural mix of religions, immigrant parents and grandparents from Europe and the Caribbean gives them an uncommon perspective on racial matters. Melding the cultures of New York City, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Memphis, the Caribbean and Atlanta has helped shape their worldview when combined with the life they have seen and experienced having flown extensively to countries throughout the world.They are wingmen to each other, providing advice, guidance and constructive criticism when needed. The goal of the show is to inspire and entertain those unafraid to expand their minds and perhaps learn something new in the hope that the listeners can become wingmen to others. Each one, teach one.

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  • What the Hell Is Life All About?
    Oct 13 2026

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    Every now and then you have to stop chasing the next thing long enough to ask the big question: what is life really all about? In Episode 265, Commander Drew and Dr. Paul turn to Japan for some strong gouge—five time-tested philosophies that offer practical ways to live with more purpose, gratitude, and peace. From ikigai (your reason for getting up in the morning) to wabi-sabi (finding beauty in a few dents in the fuselage), the Wingmen make the case for living on purpose instead of on autopilot.

    The good news is a double feature. Nashville’s airport authority voted unanimously to begin renaming Nashville International Airport in honor of Dolly Parton—a tribute to a daughter of Tennessee who never forgot where she came from. Then a major study finds taxi and ambulance drivers had the lowest share of deaths attributed to Alzheimer’s among 443 occupations, and the guys talk about giving your brain new roads to travel.

    In the Jet Jolt, we go back to 1942 and the top-secret Bell XP-59A Airacomet—America's first jet, disguised with a fake propeller and a tarp, whose first flight topped out at just 25 feet. The Frequent Flow Line brings a heartfelt letter from a teenager in Philadelphia who wants to help her aunt find mental health support without making her feel judged. Ace joins the Gouge to break down the biggest red flags of a scam and what to do in the first 60 seconds. And the Wingman Story takes us to Cabo San Lucas, where a high school soccer star makes the most important assist of his senior year—off the field.

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    36 min
  • What Is Hip!
    Oct 6 2026

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    What actually makes somebody cool? It is a question we have all been asking since middle school, and this week Commander Drew and Dr. Paul finally have some data. Researchers surveyed nearly 6,000 people across 12 countries, from the United States and Mexico to Nigeria, India, China, Germany, and South Korea, and the answer was remarkably consistent. Cool people are seen as outgoing, adventurous, open-minded, independent, influential, and willing to enjoy life. But the research found something even more important: cool and good are not the same thing. The Wingmen make the case that the strongest kind of cool combines confidence and adventure with character, the kind of person who can walk into any room as themselves and still answer the phone at 2:00 a.m. when a friend needs help.

    From there, the good news keeps coming. The guys break down time-of-use electricity plans and why when you use power can matter almost as much as how much you use. They share the story of a California resident who gave $1 million directly to the teachers of an underfunded school district, more than $9,000 each, delivered in sealed envelopes. They look at the evolving science on treating sprains and strains, where gentle movement is getting a fresh look alongside the old RICE routine.

    In the Jet Jolt, it is China’s TMS-10, an experimental business jet with a goal of carrying passengers at Mach 2 while taming the sonic boom. A fellow Navy veteran in Indiana writes in to the Frequent Flow Line asking how to make peace with a difficult neighbor without starting World War III over the property line. Ace takes on the Gouge question of what to do when your flight is delayed and the gate line is growing. And the episode closes with “The First Word,” the story of a Navy kid in Naples, Italy, and the neighbor boy who showed him that a wingman does not need to speak your language to make room for you.

    We Talk About

    ■ What makes someone cool: a 12-country study of nearly 6,000 people on what the world considers “cool”

    ■ Cool vs. good: why confidence and adventure mean little without kindness and dependability

    ■ The smart electricity gouge: time-of-use plans, peak hours, and shifting your biggest loads off-peak

    ■ A million-dollar thank-you: one resident’s $1 million gift to Ross Valley School District teachers

    ■ A better way to bounce back: rethinking rest, ice, and gentle movement for minor sprains and strains

    ■ Jet Jolt: China’s TMS-10 and the push for quieter supersonic travel

    ■ Frequent Flow Line: a Navy veteran in Indiana looking for calm seas with his neighbor

    ■ The Gouge with Ace: what to do first when your flight is delayed

    ■ Wingmen Story: “The First Word,” a Navy kid, a new country, and a friend with a soccer ball

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    31 min
  • Reading is Essential, Not Just Fundamental
    Sep 22 2026

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    The first book that finds its way into your heart can change everything. This week, Commander Drew and Dr. Paul explore why reading matters beyond school—and why the people we become, the connections we make, and the loyalties we honor are built one quiet moment at a time.

    We celebrate a deli manager rewarding student progress, a couple who raised 37 children, a coworker who chose accountability with compassion, and the veterans who refuse to let their brothers and sisters walk alone. Plus: a 24-hour flight, a 24-hour question, and why you should stop waiting for "someday" and get your passport today.

    In our Good News segment, we meet Wail Alselwi, who's paid out over $500,000 in cash rewards for student grades and progress. But the real story is how one caring adult can shift the way a young person sees themselves. Then we meet Paul and Jeane Briggs, who raised 37 children—5 biological, 32 adopted—proving that service often begins with an open door but lasts through structure, commitment, patience, and love.

    This week's Jet Jolt celebrates Qantas's 24-hour-plus nonstop flight from Melbourne to Toulouse—a test for Project Sunrise that aims to connect Sydney directly to London and eventually New York. It's not just about breaking records. It's about shrinking the world and reminding us what serious long-haul flying demands from the crews who do it.

    Our Frequent Flow Line tackles a question every leader and friend needs to answer: How do you know when you're being a loyal wingman versus helping someone avoid accountability? We hear from Linda in Liverpool, who chose the harder path—standing beside a coworker while she faced the truth—and discovered that real loyalty means caring enough to help someone learn, own it, and move forward stronger.

    In The Gouge, we break down the 24-hour question: Will this matter tomorrow? It's the practical filter that cuts through noise and helps you focus on what actually counts. And our closing Wingman Story honors intergenerational veteran support—younger veterans showing up on ordinary Tuesdays for older veterans, and older veterans sharing the wisdom that comes from surviving decades of service. Service doesn't end when you leave the military. It changes shape. That's what it means to be a Wingman.

    Wingman challenge: Name the moment you've been saving. Do it now. Get your passport. Celebrate the person you love. Show up for someone who needs to feel seen. Stop waiting for a more convenient version of your own life.

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    32 min
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