In this episode, I sit down with Michael Lopez, a Fortune 500 transformation consultant and author of “Change,” to break down why stress and resistance can be biological signs that change is working and why leaders often abandon transformation too early. We unpack Michael’s national workforce study, Rethinking Change Management, which surveyed 1,000 U.S. employees and found “zero overlap” between the top five change supports companies provide (like emails, newsletters, and training) and the top five things employees say they actually need (time and space to experiment, coaching, permission to fail, and leaders modeling change). We also discuss the AI readiness gap—65% of executives feeling ready versus about 29% of employees—and how “licenses without direction” leads to passive resistance and stalled pilots. Michael shares what real change requires: honest expectations, redesigned incentives, and an 18–24 month adaptation journey.

01:12 Stress Means Progress

03:29 Diagnosing Change Problems

05:22 Nuclear Plant Case Study

07:32 Why Playbooks Fail

09:58 The Easy Button Trap

12:23 Pricing Change Work

16:42 Zero Overlap Finding

19:37 AI Readiness Gap

22:40 Redesigning Change Strategy

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