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Why do some people seem to command attention before they’ve really said anything, while others struggle to make an impact even when they know their material?

They may have attended all the usual communication and presentation courses, but somehow something is still not quite working.

In this summer reflection episode of Leading People, Gerry Murray revisits the wisdom and advice of two former guests, Kate Walker Miles and Caroline Goyder, both of whom originally trained in the theatre.

Together, they explore why presence is less about polish or performance and much more about how we actually show up.

From voice, body and breath to intention, emotional state and gravitas, Kate and Caroline offer practical insights into why people experience us before they fully process our words.

And what they reveal is encouraging: creating more presence when you enter a room, whether physical or online, may be easier than you think.

If you lead meetings, give presentations, influence others or simply want your communication to land more effectively, this episode is for you.

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