Ryan Hawk joins Mike “C-Roc” for a powerful conversation about leadership, growth, risk-taking, and the pursuit of meaningful work. As the host of The Learning Leader Show and author of Welcome to Management, The Pursuit of Excellence, The Score That Matters, and The Price of Becoming, Ryan shares how interviewing nearly 700 world-class performers transformed his life and leadership philosophy. From athletes and coaches to CEOs and bestselling authors, Ryan explains what he’s learned from consistently putting himself in rooms with high achievers and why curiosity is one of the most valuable traits a leader can possess.

Ryan opens up about leaving a successful corporate career as a VP of Sales to pursue podcasting, speaking, and leadership development full time. Ryan and Mike "C-Roc" dive into the fear and uncertainty that come with walking away from financial security, the importance of surrounding yourself with growth-minded people, and why fulfillment matters more than comfort. Together, they reflect on how podcasting has become more than just content creation — it’s a vehicle for learning, building life-changing relationships, and impacting people around the world.

This episode is packed with insight for entrepreneurs, leaders, and anyone striving to create a more purpose-driven life while continually leveling up personally and professionally.

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