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Travis Schachtner, author and innovator, joins the podcast to challenge the outdated norms of corporate leadership. Travis shares his diverse background—from farmhand and Navy sonar technician to field service and college instructor—and how listening to younger generations (Millennials and Gen Z) radically shifted his perspective on work. He argues that the “we are a family” rhetoric is a manipulative tool used by companies to extract more labor for less respect.

Travis and Justin discuss the harsh realities of profit-driven decisions, such as billion-dollar companies refusing to air-condition warehouses, and why “market competitive” wages often just mean “the lowest we can get away with.” This episode is a call to arms for employment ethics, urging workers to treat jobs as contracts, not identities, and empowering leaders to actually care for the humans who build their profits.

Connect with : Travis Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travis-schachtner-798a72190/ Website: https://www.ftsleaders.com/

Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: Travis Schachtner on challenging leadership norms 01:10 – From farmhand to Navy tech: A diverse work history 02:30 – Why “Work to Contract” is the healthiest mindset 03:50 – The billion-dollar company with no air conditioning 05:00 – Why Gen Z is right to question corporate loyalty 07:30 – The lie of “We are a family” in business 11:00 – What “Market Competitive” wages actually mean (it’s not good) 14:00 – The shift from company loyalty to worker power 18:00 – Why treating employees like humans is good for business 22:00 – How to set boundaries and go home to your real family 26:00 – Redefining success: It’s not just about the paycheck