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Where Shall We Meet

Where Shall We Meet

Di: Omid Ashtari & Natascha McElhone
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Explorations of topics about society, culture, arts, technology and science with your hosts Natascha McElhone and Omid Ashtari.

The spirit of this podcast is to interview people from all walks of life on different subjects. Our hope is to talk about ideas, divorced from our identities - listening, learning and maybe meeting somewhere in the middle. The perfect audio diet for shallow polymaths!

Natascha McElhone is an actor and producer.
Omid Ashtari is a tech entrepreneur and angel investor.

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  • On Trust with Jimmy Wales
    Apr 29 2026

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    Welcome to the Where Shall We Meet podcast. Our guest this week is Jimmy Wales. He is an internet entrepreneur best known as the co-founder of Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that launched in 2001, creating a radically collaborative model that allows anyone to contribute to and edit what has become the world’s largest free encyclopedia. Born in Huntsville, Alabama, in 1966, Wales studied finance before working in Chicago as a trader.

    Beyond Wikipedia itself, Wales also founded the Wikimedia Foundation in 2003, the nonprofit organization that supports Wikipedia and its sister projects, and later co-founded Wikia, now known as Fandom, a commercial wiki platform built around fan communities.

    Over the years, he has become both an advocate and a symbol of the broader idea that knowledge can be created collaboratively and made freely accessible at global scale. His role has often been less that of a traditional executive and more that of a public steward for a radically open model of information.

    Wikipedia is not just a website; it is a living experiment in whether strangers can cooperate, disagree, revise one another, and still produce something of enormous public value. That question of trust is central to his 2025 book The Seven Rules of Trust, in which he reflects on how trust can be built, and sustained in institutions and communities.

    We talk about:

    • His seven rules of trust
    • Trusting people to contribute wisely
    • The mechanics of Wikipedia
    • How a crisis lead to an innovation
    • News shouldn’t be entertainment
    • How collective knowledge negotiates truth
    • Can we find consensus as a society
    • Crisis of trust in politics

    Let’s search!

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    1 ora e 10 min
  • On Reading with Samantha Harvey
    Apr 15 2026

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    Welcome to the third season of the Where Shall We Meet podcast. Quick housekeeping, in the show notes you will find a link to send us a voice note, should you feel the urge.

    Our guest today is Samantha Harvey who is a British novelist and a senior lecturer in creative writing at Bath Spa University. Her Phd centred on writing philosophical fiction. She has published five novels and one work of non-fiction, and her work has been shortlisted for the Women's Prize, the James Tait Black Award and the Walter Scott Prize.

    Her debut, The Wilderness, was narrated from inside the mind of a man with Alzheimer's and won the Betty Trask Prize. Her non-fiction book The Shapeless Unease is an account of a year of severe insomnia, exploring how prolonged sleeplessness changes the way you think, write, and experience time.

    Her most recent novel, Orbital, was published in 2023 and won the 2024 Booker Prize - one of the shortest novels ever to do so. Harvey wrote much of it during COVID lockdowns, watching live footage from the ISS.

    Her work consistently returns to questions of consciousness, perception, and attention - how we experience time, place, and the limits of what the human mind can hold.

    We talk about:

    • What is reading
    • Can we still pay attention?
    • A love letter to planet Earth
    • The value of new media
    • How she got 16 sunrises and 16 sunsets into one day
    • It’s the reader who finishes the novel
    • The humbling impact of the Overview effect
    • How to be an intrepid explorer from your desk

    Let’s go into orbit!

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  • On Constructing Reality with Joscha Bach
    Nov 26 2025

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    Our guest this week is Joscha Bach. He is a German cognitive scientist, artificial-intelligence researcher and philosopher of mind who consistently bridges the gap between what human intelligence is and what machines could become. He has an MA in computer science and a PhD in cognitive science. Over the course of his career he has held research positions at institutions such as the MIT Media Lab and the Harvard Program for Evolutionary Dynamics.

    Bach is best known for his work on computational models of human-like cognition: he developed the cognitive architecture called “MicroPsi”, exploring how perception, motivation, emotion and decision-making interact in autonomous agents. He is the author of Principles of Synthetic Intelligence. In addition to his academic output, he has taken roles in applied AI research and strategy, bringing theoretical insight into real-world settings.

    What sets his approach apart is his deeply integrative mindset: he treats intelligence not just as surface behaviour or pattern-recognition, but as the emergent result of rich internal models of the world and self. His philosophical lens brings questions of consciousness, free will and meaning into the technical domain, framing AI and cognition as part of a broader inquiry into what it means to think, feel and act.

    We talk about:

    • We live in a story not in the physical world
    • Consciousness does not depend on the substrate
    • Can you learn reality by just watching YT
    • Alternative approaches to building AI
    • Intuition is the part of your mind you cannot yet reflect
    • The constraint to becoming superhuman only applies to humans
    • There is no obligation to unite your many selves

    This episode will require your full focus. We recommend you put on headphones and turn off all your other devices.

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    Twitter: @whrshallwemeet
    Instagram: @whrshallwemeet

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