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When the Relationship Expert Needs Relationship Help, Too - Rich & Jessica

When the Relationship Expert Needs Relationship Help, Too - Rich & Jessica

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In this episode of Perfectly Imperfect Love: The Relational Repair Podcast, Dr. Hazel-Grace sits down with Jessica, a relationship therapist, and her husband Rich for an honest, tender look at what happens when life stretches our relational skills beyond their limits.

Their love story began with an unexpected hug at a laundromat, but years later, marriage, parenthood, and living alongside three generations of family have brought challenges neither could have fully anticipated.

When a painful conflict with Rich's parents leaves Jessica feeling alone and unsupported, the couple finds themselves navigating much more than a family disagreement. Old wounds surface, loyalties become complicated, and even Jessica's decades of professional experience can't provide all the answers.

Together, they explore what it means to take responsibility for what we couldn't see in the moment, how repair can soothe our deepest attachment wounds, and why sometimes the most loving thing we can do is acknowledge that we need help.

This conversation is a reminder that knowing how to repair doesn't mean we won't struggle. It means we're willing to keep learning, growing, and finding our way back to each other.

Because even relationship experts are perfectly imperfect at love.

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