In this episode of Walking Defined, Kate and Baylee sit down with a special guest, Pastor Matt Cook (Baylee’s dad) for a raw, conviction-filled conversation that goes straight to the heart.

Pastor Matt shares the turning point that changed everything: a moment where God brought him to his knees, broke his pride, and began building a real, personal relationship with Him. From there, we talk about what it means to walk by faith when God opens and closes doors, why humility often comes through humiliation, and how submission to the Lord reshapes the way we lead, love, and live.

This conversation also lays important groundwork for what’s coming next, especially as we move into deeper conversations about marriage, leadership, and roles in the home.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Pastor Matt’s testimony and the moment God confronted his pride and redirected his life
• What it looks like to walk through doors God opens, and trust Him when they close
• Why true courage flows from submission to God
• Why men are increasingly fearful in modern culture, and what happens when purpose disappears
• God’s design for masculinity and femininity, and why the world’s confusion creates disorder
• A direct word to the wife who feels like she has been carrying the “shield” and how to begin restoring God’s order with repentance, forgiveness, and faith
• A closing prayer for the wife who wants change but feels held back by fear

Scripture referenced:

Genesis 3:16 – The impact of the Fall on relationships and the tension introduced into marriage

Ephesians 5:25–27 – Christ’s sacrificial love as the model for covenant leadership

Galatians 6:7 – The principle that what we sow spiritually will bear fruit

Matthew 24:4 – Jesus’ warning to guard against deception

Matthew 11:12 – The cost and seriousness of pursuing the Kingdom of God

2 Timothy 3:12 – The reality that godly living will face opposition

Psalm 119:105 – God’s Word as a lamp guiding each step forward

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