What does uncertainty have to do with the body? From fight-flight to flow states. (#38) copertina

What does uncertainty have to do with the body? From fight-flight to flow states. (#38)

What does uncertainty have to do with the body? From fight-flight to flow states. (#38)

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In this episode of the FindingSustainia – Meyer & Meyer Podcast, Anna and Santa are joined by our lovely team member Ann Moradian – dancer, choreographer, and expert in embodiment, somatic intelligence, and decision-making under uncertainty. Find out more about her work via www.perspectivesinmotion.org


Together, we explore a question that sits at the very core of change work:

How do we relate to uncertainty without collapsing into stress, control, or burnout?


Ann shares why uncertainty is not a mental problem but a deeply physical experience, how it shows up in the nervous system, breath, organs, and posture – and why many of our decisions suffer when we operate from fight, flight, or freeze. We talk about embodiment as a source of real-time information, how creativity and joy signal capacity, and why better decisions require safety in the body, not just clarity in the mind.


The conversation moves from theory to practice: how to recognise when we are operating below our capacity, how small embodied practices can restore flow, and why movement, pauses, and attention to the body are essential for leaders, changemakers, and sustainability professionals navigating complexity.


The episode also offers a preview of the New Year’s Reset (January 4, 2026), where Ann joins Anna and Santa to create a shared space for reflection, embodiment, visualisation, and intentional direction-setting for the year ahead.


A thoughtful, practical, and deeply human conversation about uncertainty, embodiment, and staying grounded while working on the frontlines of change.

Please register for the New Year’s Reset here: https://www.findingsustainia.com/new-year-s-reset

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