What does authenticity taste like? For siblings Danillo and Chiara Turilli, it’s their late dad’s ragù, 72-hour fermented pizza al taglio, and occasionally swearing at one another in Italian.

In this emotional episode, Chiara cries several times, tells stories about how the siblings fought in Rome, and Dani compliments her on public record for the first time ever. Iconic.

The founders of Lello’s Trattoria, Aperitivo Bar and Caffè share how growing up in restaurants shaped their food philosophy, why you won’t find flat whites on their menu, and how a heartbreak-fuelled renovation became one of Cape Town’s most beloved Italian spaces.

Plus, Thulisa Martins, Senior Product Developer at Woolworths, joins The Cold Seat to explain how San Marzano tomatoes are now grown locally from imported Italian seeds… and why authentic products must still be imported.

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What happens when you treat fire as an ingredient rather than just heat? Chef Vusi Ndlovu and restaurateur Absie Pantshwa, the dynamic duo behind Cape Town's acclaimed Edge restaurant, reveal how they're revolutionising African fine-dining. From minimalist plates, championing female winemakers and unconventional pairings (yes, including Black Label beer!), the duo explains why "cooking with fire" requires both humility and mastery.

Plus, Scott Parker, Product Development Manager: Culinary Innovation, Research and Development at Woolworths, explains how umleqwa made it into stores.

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From a childhood living room to the top of the South African fine dining scene, Johannes Richter, the 2025 Eat Out Woolworths Chef of the Year, joins us to share how The LivingRoom at Summerhill Guest Estate was built on a bold promise: to source 90% of the ingredients within 150 kilometres – and make them exceptional.

We also sit down with Sally Holderness, Head of Product: Trends, Insights, Strategy and Science at Woolworths, to answer a question you’ve asked yourself in the fruit aisle: why are some bananas wrapped in plastic?

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