Prologis operates more than 6,000 warehouses, data centers, and distribution centers worldwide. You may never have heard of it, but there’s a good chance your last online order passed through one. Susan Uthayakumar, its Chief Energy and Sustainability Officer, joins Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend to talk about the squeeze on power supply and the backlash against data centers. She also covers building for climate risk, keeping global standards in every country, and why she still does this work.

Recorded live at Solutions House during Climate Week NYC, this special episode turns the mic over to the audience. In an ask-us-anything session, Joel and Solitaire field questions from the crowd on AI, regeneration, misinformation, recycling myths, and intergenerational blame. They also cover how to talk with people who disagree with you, and how to stay hopeful when climate impacts hit close to home. The episode opens with the hosts asking each other questions: their regrets, their guilty pleasures, and how they handle the stage fright that never quite goes away.

What do data centers, energy shocks, extreme weather, Flock cameras and anti-oligarch anger have in common — and could they add up to something new? Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend dig into whether the public is starting to connect a handful of "wild card" events, what history's unlikely coalitions (and its failed ones) can teach us about how this could go, and why sustainability teams need to get back to being an early-warning system instead of just a reporting function.