After seeing Run Again, an amazing trail running film by Alexis Berg, I reached out to Dave Pen. As featured in the film, Dave is a lead singer and songwriter for the U.K. band Archive and also a veteran of some of Europe's most extreme endurance running events. The film Run Again skillfully interweaves Dave running in the Winter Spine race through dark, icy expanses in rain and muck with him performing in stadium shows with the band. It's a cinematic exposition on grit, artistry, rock and roll, and raw life experience. Most recently, Dave completed Tor de Geants. He has great stories and trail wisdom to share, and he's an refreshingly down-to-earth human being. I'm sure you'll enjoy our conversation. If you have a chance, watch for the film to appear on YouTube again once it's off the festival circuit.

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Have you heard about the Trail House Project? Three young trail and ultra runners, coached by Matt Daniels, training to be part of the next generation of elite trail runners. Of the cast of characters in the Trail House, Bayden is the mountain running purist. He's humble and hungry. In the podcast, I call him a young Anton, but really he's finding his own path which naturally tends toward high places. He joins Ares Reading and Dylan Flewelling in this home just off the trails outside of Boulder, Colorado. Check out the Trail House channel on YouTube sometime. For sure you'll be hearing more and more about these guys.

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Meet Arlen Glick, one of the most fascinating and fast people in the trail and ultra running community. He was featured in the film, The Chase, after he finished third at the Cocodona 250 in 2024. You may be wondering where he's been. He's never been on social media, and he's not currently sponsored by a shoe company. I met the morning after his most recent run at Hardrock when we had a very brief conversation about his race and his plan to take his nephew fishing later that day. Arlen is outgoing, well-liked, and more than meets the eye. We talked about topics ranging from how he got started to his time in prison. Repeated visits. Ministry. I really enjoyed my conversation with him.

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I absolutely enjoyed this conversation with Zach Miller, the trail running legend, about his story and journey so far as a trail runner and in life. We talked a little about his fantastic year in 2026, with historic runs at Western States and Canyons; and more about his wedding, handing out donuts at Hardrock, and what brought him here. Zach is undoubtedly one of the most well-known and respected trail runners in the world. By the end of this episode, I think you'll know him better and respect him even more.

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Join me for a personal conversation with Katharina Hartmuth to learn her story. Katharina is quite simply one of the fastest, grittiest trail runners in the world today, and she's an amazing, brilliant, and humble human being. Besides having a PhD in Climate Science and years of experience working in that field, she has had two podium performances at UTMB in the past three years, plus a record shattering run at Tor de Geants that she will be defending in just five days. Along the way, she has faced and overcome incredible challenges, as documented in the 2025 short film, "Katharina", by Ethan Newberry (The Ginger Runner).

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Meet Josh Garcia and Mari Perez, a trail running couple from Albuquerque who started a business for trail runners. I wanted to learn who they are and what makes them tick. If you run in New Mexico, you may have meet Josh and Mari at a trail running event representing their business, Trail Gains. They make performance hydration products with natural ingredients specifically for trail runners. This episode isn't a deep dive into their products; it's a chance to meet them and learn their story. I recommend that you follow the link below to find their website and check out their products for yourself.

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I sat down with Bryon Powell, founder of iRunFar, at his home in Silverton the day before Hardrock. We didn't talk about the race or the world famous trail runners literally passing by his window, but about his story, choices he has made, and what wisdom he has gained from his relentless outward pursuits and his necessary retreats into quiet spaces.

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Are you familiar with Simon Gutierrez and his story?

Simon Gutierrez is a legend in New Mexico trail running and a member of the Colorado Running Hall of Fame. He grew up in New Mexico and started running in the 8th grade. Later we ran together on the same state championship winning high school cross-country team.

Tune into this episode to hear Simon's story. Get some of the wisdom he has to share, and learn what he is doing today. It turns out he has plans to run competitively again, and he is starting a coaching business that you may want to check out called Simon Says Run. Based on his experience as an elite, record setting road and trail runner, and his 30 years of experience as a physical therapist, he has a lot to offer in this new role.

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