Romance author Jasmine Guillory (The Wedding Date, By the Book) joins Kat and Katie to celebrate her young adult debut, It's Only Dancing. She shares what it took to pivot from adult romance into YA, how Dirty Dancing inspired the novel—but got a fresh, diverse update in her telling—and why she thinks the future of rom-coms is looking brighter than ever.

Audiobooks mentioned in this episode:

It’s Only Dancing by Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Jasmine Guillory

Southern Belle Insults by Keke Palmer and Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Keke Palmer

The Wedding Date by Jasmine Guillory | Narrated by Janina Edwards

You Should See Me in a Crown by Leah Johnson | Narrated by Alaska Jackson

Meet Me in the Garden by Nina LaCour | Narrated by Angel Pean

BookTok powerhouse Colleen Hoover (It Ends with Us, Woman Down) joins Katie and Kat ahead of the theatrical release of the adaptation of her novel, Verity. She discusses her career trajectory, from self-publishing her first novel so her grandma could read it on a Kindle to becoming an international bestselling author with books Hollywood can’t get enough of, and what she thinks of the highly anticipated new film.

Audiobooks we mention in this episode:

Verity by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Vanessa Johansson and Amy Landon

Slammed by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Heidi Baker

Woman Down by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Sarah Naughton

The Simple Wild by K.A. Tucker | Narrated by Rebekkah Ross

Ten Tiny Breaths by K.A. Tucker | Narrated by Elizabeth Louise

Love, Theoretically by Ali Hazelwood | Narrated by Thérèse Plummer

Heart Bones by Colleen Hoover | Narrated by Angela Goethals

Lights Out by Navessa Allen | Narrated by Elena Wolfe and Jacob Morgan

Fantasy author Leigh Bardugo (Shadow and Bone, The Familiar) helps Kat and Katie usher in spooky season with the launch of the final book in her Ninth House trilogy, Dead Beat. She explains how she looks for magic under the facades of the real world, reveals her incredible talent for movie-trailer marketing, and tells us about her OTP (one true pairing) with her ride-or-die narrator, Lauren Fortgang.

Note for listeners: This episode contains one instance of strong language.

Audiobooks we mention in this episode:

Dead Beat by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang and Michael David Axtell

Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang and Michael David Axtell

Shadow and Bone by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang

The Familiar by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Lauren Fortgang

Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption by Stephen King | Narrated by Frank Muller

Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo | Narrated by Jay Snyder, Brandon Rubin, Fred Berman, Lauren Fortgang, Roger Clark, Elizabeth Evans, Tristan Morris