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The Space Between - Episode 3 - The Illusion of Separation - Dissolving the Veil

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In this episode of The Space Between – Heaven on Earth, Jeffrey Aylor is joined by Joe Dermody and Joel Aylor for a reflective conversation on the subtle ways separation is learned, experienced, and gently softened in everyday life.


Together, they explore the “veil” that can arise between ourselves, our relationships, and the living world — not as something to fix or overcome, but as something to notice with honesty and compassion.


This conversation invites listeners to sit with moments of distance and connection, and to consider how presence, listening, and shared inquiry can allow the sense of separation to become more transparent, one moment at a time.

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