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🐾 Episode Summary

What if shamanism isn’t something you become — but something you remember?

In this deeply moving Part 1 conversation of Animal Talk, Trisha McCagh is joined by Oscar Miro Quesada, renowned ceremonialist, teacher, and founder of the Pachacuti Mesa Tradition, to explore the true heart of shamanic practice beyond modern spiritual labels.

Together, Trisha and Oscar explore shamanism as a relational way of living — one that recognises animals, plants, mountains, rivers, and stars as conscious relations, not resources.

This episode is a powerful opening to a two-part journey that weaves together animal wisdom, soul consciousness, nature-based spirituality, and the remembrance of ancient relationships that humanity has largely forgotten.

✨What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• What shamanism truly means — and what it is not
• Shamanism as a path of service, sacrifice, humility, and devotion
• The meaning of “All Our Relations” — animals, plants, mountains, rivers, and stars
• Mental vs environmental “contamination” in the modern world
• Why silence, listening, and humility are essential spiritual practices
• Munay (love) as the true force behind healing and communication
• The sacred role of animals as teachers, healers, and emissaries for humanity
• Why animals serve the whole — and what humanity has forgotten

🐶 Key Takeaways

• Animals are conscious beings carrying wisdom humanity urgently needs
• Separation from nature is an illusion created by modern thinking
• True wisdom arises through humility, listening, and reverence for life

🔊 Memorable Quotes / Soundbites

“Shamanism is not a title — it’s a responsibility.”

“Animals are not here for us. They are here with us.”

“Love is the intelligence behind all healing.”

“We are not separate from nature — we are nature remembering itself.”

⏱️ Chapters / Timestamp Guide

00:00 Introduction to Oscar Miro Quesada

10:35 Understanding Shamanism as a Labour of Love

20:26 Apprenticeship, Training & Revelation

30:36 Bridging Ancient Wisdom with Modern Life

36:55 The Role of Animals in Shamanic Practice

👤 About the Guest

Oscar Miro Quesada is a globally respected ceremonialist, educator, and founder of the Pachacuti Mesa Tradition, a lineage-rooted shamanic path drawing from Indigenous Peruvian wisdom.

https://heartofthehealer.org/about-don-oscar-miro-quesada/

🔮 Coming Up in Part 2

The conversation deepens as Oscar and Trisha explore:

• How animals choose us
• Power animal embodiment and lived animal medicine
• An unforgettable and mysterious encounter with a vampire bat 🦇

This next episode is profound, surprising, and not to be missed.

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🎧 Listen, Share & Stay Connected

If this episode resonated with you, follow Animal Talk with Trisha McCagh, share it with kindred spirits, and continue this journey of remembrance with us.

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