Making art is one thing.Making it sustainable is another.In this episode of Real Work, Geoff Anderson shares the honest reality of turning poetry into a business—without hollowing out the heart of the work itself.This is a grounded conversation about craft, discipline, and the often invisible labor behind creative careers. We talk about what it really takes to let art pay the bills while protecting meaning, voice, and integrity.In this episode, we explore:The tension between creative freedom and financial survivalWhat poets and artists misunderstand about “monetizing” their workHow discipline supports creativity instead of killing itWhy the business side of art doesn’t have to erase the soulIf you’re a creative trying to make your work last—not just launch—this episode is for you.This isn’t about shortcuts.It’s about doing the real work.🎙️ Part of the Real Work series📺 Listen or watch wherever you get your podcastsLearn more / connect with GeoffGeoff Anderson is the founder of Fluent American and the author of 4 Step American Accent, focused on improving communication for speakers of all languages, especially in English. He is also the founder of diVERSES, guiding poets and artists toward creative and financial independence, and runs The Stanza, Columbus, Ohio’s first and only poetry-dedicated venue.His essay collection, Meditations for the Independent Poet, explores the intersection of poetry, art, and business.🌐 Websites➡️ https://fluentamerican.com➡️ https://diversespoetry.com▶️ YouTube Channels➡️ Fluent American — @fluentamerican➡️ Fluent American Shadowing — @fluentamericanshadowing➡️ Schwa Mill — @schwamill➡️ Geoff Anderson — @geoffanderson➡️ diVERSES Poetry — @diversespoetry