Gary Jonas, co-owner of The Little Fleet and Farm Club joins Ryan and Mark for this episode. Gary discusses being in the hospitality business. He describes the fun and rewarding aspects of hosting events and providing a space for people to gather.

Gary talks about the stress of balancing work with family life, mentioning the importance of having a great staff to support him. He reflects on his unconventional path into the restaurant business, starting without much prior knowledge and the support of his wife and business partner, Allison.

The conversation shifts to the origins of The Little Fleet and Farm Club, highlighting the community support they received in New York City and Traverse City. Gary shares the journey of sourcing locally and adopting a farm-to-table approach. He also discusses the uniqueness of Traverse City as a destination and the success of ventures if done well.

Reflecting on his background in economics, Gary emphasizes the importance of following gut instincts in business decisions. He shares stories of opening restaurants and bars, including Sycamore, a whiskey bar, and the challenges and rewards of entrepreneurship.

The discussion concludes with insights into Traverse City's supportive community and its role as an incubator for new ventures. Gary expresses gratitude for living in such a beautiful place and reflects on the success of their ventures, attributing it to hard work and community curiosity.

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On this episode, artist Katie Lowran shares her journey into art, which began when she inexplicably felt compelled to buy a tube of electric blue paint despite lacking prior artistic experience. She discusses her passion for infusing emotion and feeling into her acrylic paintings, even though she initially studied psychology in college and grew up in an academic household. Katie emphasizes the importance of living life to the fullest and having fun. The podcast also touches on her three artistic children, her business-minded approach, and challenges the stereotype of artists being perceived as "flaky" or impractical.