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The Practice Ground | A Self-Improvement Podcast with Ken Li and Kari Watterson

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Join confidence coach, Ken Li, and mindset and habits coach, Kari Watterson, for conversations that challenge how you think, encourage courageous experimentation, and inspire you to gather experiences that deepen your confidence—and your participation in your own life.

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  • Ep. 9 - What If You Removed the One Thing Slowing Everything Down?
    Oct 16 2026

    What if making progress isn't about doing more, but removing the one thing that's slowing everything else down?

    Our instinct may be to add something: more effort, another strategy, more information, another book or podcast, more preparation.

    But in Essentialism, Greg McKeown offers another possibility: What could you remove?

    In Chapter 16, “Subtract: Bring Forth More by Removing Obstacles,” McKeown uses the story of a hiking group to illustrate the power of identifying a system's biggest constraint. One boy, Herbie, is moving more slowly than everyone else. Making the faster hikers move faster won't get the group to its destination any sooner. But when Herbie's load is lightened, the entire group can move faster.

    It's a simple idea. Applying it to a human life gets more complicated.

    In this episode of The Practice Ground, Ken and Kari explore what it might look like to identify the “slowest hiker” in our own lives—the obstacle consuming disproportionate time, energy, or effort, or keeping us from making progress on something that matters.

    For Kari, that question became part of an ongoing experiment with her running habit. What if the biggest obstacle wasn't fitness, motivation, or knowing what to do—but the amount of mental chatter and resistance surrounding the behavior? What might happen if, instead of adding another strategy, she worked on reducing that?

    Ken brings another question to the idea: What if the obstacle we can see isn't the one actually holding us back?

    Humans are messier than production lines or hiking groups. We may think the problem is lack of time, information, preparation, or someone else's behavior when something less visible—perfectionism, self-doubt, lack of clarity, or another mindset obstacle—is helping keep us stuck. And because we're inside the system we're trying to understand, sometimes another perspective can help us see what we can't see ourselves.

    What you'll hear inside the episode:

    • why trying harder at everything may not help if one major constraint is still holding the whole system back
    • how the “slowest hiker” story offers a different question when something isn't working: What could I remove instead of add?
    • how Kari experimented with reducing the mental chatter and resistance surrounding running rather than adding more motivation or strategies
    • why ideas that look simple on paper can become much messier when the “system” we're trying to understand is ourselves
    • Ken's hypothesis that some of our biggest obstacles may have a mindset component—and why perfectionism can look deceptively like productive preparation
    • why the problem we first identify may not be the problem we actually need to solve
    • why getting clear about the desired outcome comes before deciding which obstacle to remove
    • how lack of clarity itself can become a constraint—and what Kari's evolving business focus taught her about concentrating energy in one direction
    • why giving ourselves some grace while experimenting can help us stay with the process long enough to learn whether we've identified the right obstacle
    • when a mentor, coach, or other outside perspective might help us see the “slowest hiker” we're too close to recognize ourselves

    One question sits underneath the entire conversation:

    What problem am I actually trying to solve—and what is the biggest thing making it harder than it needs to be?

    The answer may not be immediately obvious. We may discover that our first hypothesis was wrong. But rather than automatically adding more effort, information, or strategies, McKeown's slowest-hiker principle gives us another place to look.

    What is the biggest obstacle you could remove that might make it easier to move toward what matters to you?

    Cited in this episode:

    Book | Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown

    Book | Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most by Greg McKeown

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    Ken Li is a confidence coach. Connect with Ken on LinkedIn, where he regularly shares mindset tools, resources, and strategies to help professionals who second-guess themselves feel as confident inside as they look.

    Kari Watterson is a mindset and habits coach. Connect with Kari on Instagram (@theadhdhabittrainer). where she shares her ongoing series, The Habit Training Diaries, or visit her website at KariWatterson.com.

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    38 min
  • Ep. 8 - Beyond the Four Laws: 6 Little Lessons for Life from Atomic Habits
    Oct 9 2026
    What if the lessons we learn from our habits could teach us something bigger about how to live?Near the end of Atomic Habits, James Clear shares 18 “Little Lessons from the Four Laws” — short observations about desire, emotion, motivation, action, and human behavior that extend well beyond building or breaking habits.In this episode of The Practice Ground, Ken and Kari each choose three lessons that caught their attention — not necessarily because they have them figured out, but because they gave them something to think about.And that leads to a conversation about much more than habits.What does curiosity have to do with confidence? Do our actions really reveal how badly we want something? What if we do want something badly, but keep failing to achieve it? Do we need a powerful “why” before we can move forward? And can we want to change something about our lives without first turning where we are now into a problem?Along the way, Ken and Kari do what they do on The Practice Ground: test the ideas against their own experiences, question them, look for contradictions, and see what happens when they put them into practice.What you’ll hear inside the episode:why peace may come from being able to observe something without immediately deciding it needs to be fixed — and why acceptance and improvement don't have to be oppositeswhy curiosity can sometimes get us to act when confidence can’t — and how asking “What can I learn from this?” can create a very different way into something that scares uswhy curiosity matters not only for personal growth, but also in our work and relationships — and what it may have to do with openness, humility, and our willingness to keep growinghow emotions drive behavior — and why the relationship also works in the other direction, with our actions helping shape how we feel and what we do nextwhy “desire initiates, pleasure sustains” can help explain why some habits stick while others feel like a constant exercise in willpowerwhat Ken’s after-tennis eating habit and Kari’s running practice reveal about designing behaviors around what we actually want and enjoy — rather than continually fighting ourselveswhy the idea that “your actions reveal how badly you want something” deserves some nuance: repeatedly trying and failing may not mean you don't want something badly enough; it may mean the system you're using isn't workingwhat happens when you believe a strong “why” can help you overcome almost any “how” — but you aren't completely sure what your why is anymorewhy our “why” may evolve as we do, and why we don't necessarily need to turn not knowing into another problem to solvehow all four laws — make it obvious, make it attractive, make it easy, and make it satisfying — give us places to experiment when our behavior isn't producing the results we wantOne idea keeps resurfacing throughout the conversation: behavior isn't a verdict on who you are.When something isn't working, we can get curious about it. Maybe the desire isn't there. Maybe the behavior isn't satisfying. Maybe there's too much friction. Or maybe we deeply want the outcome, but haven't yet found a system that helps us get there.That distinction matters because it helps us stop blaming ourselves and start looking at the real problem to solve.The conversation eventually arrives at an idea from Atomic Habits that lands personally for Ken. Looking back on his own journey, James Clear reflects that what mattered most wasn't becoming a professional athlete, but believing he had fulfilled his potential.That becomes a larger question behind this episode—and, in many ways, behind The Practice Ground itself: How can we keep learning, experimenting, taking action, and discovering what we're capable of? Atomic Habits shows us that one way we can move closer to realizing our potential is by understanding how our own behavior works—and learning to work with it rather than fighting against it.Cited in this episode:Book | Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits and Break Bad Ones by James ClearBook | The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom by don Miguel RuizBook | Tiny Habits by BJ FoggBook | The Power of Habit by Charles DuhiggBook | Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products by Nir EyalBook | Start With Why by Simon SinekBook | Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. FranklConcept | Dan Sullivan — the idea that we can want what we want without needing to justify the desireQuote referenced | Friedrich Nietzsche — “He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.”Confidence research | Dr. Richard Petty, Ohio State University — Ken references Petty’s work connecting confidence with moving from thought to action.Podcast | The End of the Day: A Mindset Podcast by Kari WattersonEpisode 65 — Finding Your Worth Beyond Societal Expectations: A Conversation with Confidence Coach, Ken LiEpisode 100 — 7 Life Coaching ...
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  • Ep. 7 - Impostor Syndrome: What If Self-Doubt Isn't The Problem?
    Oct 2 2026

    What if self-doubt isn't always something we need to overcome?

    Impostor syndrome is usually framed as a confidence problem: something to conquer so we can finally believe in ourselves and move forward. But what if some amount of doubt can actually make us better learners, encourage us to prepare more thoughtfully, and remind us to ask for help when we don't know what we don't know?

    In this episode of The Practice Ground, Ken and Kari explore a different way of thinking about impostor syndrome, inspired in part by Adam Grant's Think Again. They unpack the difference between confidence and competence, Grant's idea of confident humility, and why the goal may not be eliminating self-doubt at all.

    Through stories ranging from Ken's own experiences with impostor syndrome to Reese Witherspoon's preparation for Walk the Line and Halla Tómasdóttir's practice of befriending her impostor thoughts, they explore a more useful question:

    What if doubt isn't always a signal to stop — but sometimes a signal that we're stretching into something we haven't learned how to do yet?

    What you’ll hear inside the episode:

    • Adam Grant’s contrast between the “impostor” and the “armchair quarterback” — and what it reveals about the sometimes surprising relationship between confidence and competence
    • how Grant’s concept of confident humility offers another possibility: enough confidence to move forward paired with enough humility to recognize what we still have to learn
    • how to get curious about what impostor feelings might actually be telling us rather than automatically believing or dismissing them
    • why preparation, practice, and experience can give us evidence we may not be able to think ourselves into beforehand
    • what Reese Witherspoon’s experience preparing for Walk the Line can teach us about doing something before we feel confident we can
    • why comparing our beginning to someone else’s expertise can distort the way we assess our own capability
    • Halla Tómasdóttir’s practice of befriending her impostor thoughts rather than waiting for them to disappear
    • how self-doubt can sometimes point toward a growth edge rather than a reason to turn back
    • why courage may need to come before confidence

    Referenced in the episode:

    Book | Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know by Adam Grant

    Book | The Practice: Shipping Creative Work by Seth Godin

    Book | The Gap and the Gain: The High Achievers' Guide To Happiness, Confidence, and Success by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy

    Podcast | ReThinking with Adam Grant | Reese Witherspoon on Turning Impostor Syndrome Into Confidence (aired October 25, 2022)

    Podcast | ReThinking with Adam Grant | Befriending Your Impostor Syndrome with Iceland's President Halla Tómasdóttir (aired December 17, 2024)

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    Ken Li is a confidence coach. Connect with Ken on LinkedIn, where he regularly shares mindset tools, resources, and strategies to help professionals who second-guess themselves feel as confident inside as they look.

    Kari Watterson is a mindset and habits coach. Connect with Kari on Instagram (@theadhdhabittrainer). where she shares her ongoing series, The Habit Training Diaries, or visit her website at KariWatterson.com.

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    57 min
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