In this episode of The Outdoor Education Podcast, Rob Carmichael is joined by Dr. Pierre Echaubard, ecologist, educator, and founder of Nature Mind-ED, a Thailand-based organisation blending ecology, mindfulness, and outdoor experiential education.

Pierre shares his journey from academic research into community-based conservation, regenerative education, and hands-on outdoor learning. Drawing on his work in southern Thailand, from restoration sites turned into living classrooms to the creation of the Rewild Festival, Pierre explores how education can move beyond sustainability as a buzzword and toward genuinely regenerative practice.

Together, Rob and Pierre unpack:

• The shift from sustainability to regeneration
• Why connection must come before conservation
• What it means to learn with nature
• How mindfulness deepens ecological learning
• What gives hope in the face of today’s ecological “wicked problems”

This conversation is an invitation to rethink education, reconnect with place, and remember that caring for the natural world begins with relationship.

In this episode of The Outdoor Education Podcast, Rob Carmichael speaks with Emma Wilson and Jeff Morey, educators at UWC Thailand, about creating learning environments where curiosity, care, and connection thrive outdoors.

From jungle classrooms and mangrove stewardship to bee boxes, field guides, and family learning, Emma and Jeff share how outdoor learning isn’t an “extra” — it’s simply good learning. They reflect on joy, risk, student agency, collaboration, and how children grow socially and emotionally when given space to explore.

This episode is an invitation to rethink what a classroom can be and who learning is really for.

Key themes:

• Outdoor classrooms & inquiry
• Risk, resilience & reflection
• Stewardship & student agency
• Community & generational learning

Episode 8, Rethinking Risk in Outdoor Education with Dr. Clare Dallat

In this episode of The Outdoor Education Podcast, Rob Carmichael sits down with Dr. Clare Dallat, Founder and Director of Risk Resolve, to explore how outdoor educators can move beyond blame and build safer, more meaningful learning environments through systems thinking and a strong safety culture.

Drawing on more than two decades of experience and a PhD in Human Factors and Accident Prediction, Clare reflects on how growing up in Northern Ireland shaped her belief in the power of outdoor learning to connect people. She also shares how her work across Australia, the United States, and Asia has influenced her thinking, challenging traditional approaches to risk, leadership, and accountability.

This conversation is essential listening for outdoor educators, school leaders, risk managers, and anyone responsible for learning beyond the classroom.

🔗 Links to Clare’s research and Risk Resolve below

Risk Resolve Website: https://riskresolve.net/

Paper mentioned: “The Silence Is Deafening: Exploring the Impacts of Serious Incidents on Practitioners Across the Outdoor and Adventure Programs Work System” https://www.researchgate.net/publication/392742848_The_Silence_Is_Deafening_Exploring_the_Impacts_of_Serious_Incidents_on_Practitioners_Across_the_Outdoor_and_Adventure_Programs_Work_System