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The Next Build Podcast

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The Next Build is for business owners who are ready to go from executor to operator. Host Mason McCumber, SEO expert, AI automation consultant, and founder of M&M Solutions and Consulting shares how to go from manual execution to orchestrated leverage. You’ve been the driver. Prompting, coding manually, doing the work yourself. Now it's time to be the dispatcher. Each episode provides practical frameworks for agentic workflows, memory systems, and the real-world challenges of managing AI as a team member. No hype. There are no promises of “set it and forget it.” Just real conversations about tools that work repeatably at scale and building systems that actually work.

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  • From 60-Hour Weeks to 30: How Founders Stop Being the Bottleneck
    Oct 14 2026

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    This episode of the Next Build Podcast is brought to you by Zaptime, an AI powered productivity and workforce analytics platform that helps teams understand how time is actually being spent, surface real insights instead of guesswork, and get more done without adding more tools to the stack.
    If you want to see how Zaptime can bring clarity to your team's productivity, visit https://zaptime.ai/demo and book a free demo today.



    Are you the bottleneck in your own business? Gabe Arnold, owner of Simple Operations and author of Passenger Seat Leadership, explains how founders escape the "driver trap," cut their hours from 60 to 30, and scale without burning out.


    In this episode of the Next Build Podcast, Mason talks with Gabe about why "what got you here won't get you there," and the practical steps founders can take to step back from day-to-day work without losing momentum. Gabe shares the 4R job description (role, responsibility, results, requirements), why tracking your time exposes how many roles you're secretly holding, and why hiring more people without clarity causes massive slowdowns.


    In this episode, you'll learn:

    ✅ What the founder "driver trap" is and how to get out of it

    ✅ The first two steps to stop working 60+ hour weeks

    ✅ How to lead from the passenger seat with one critical number

    ✅ When AI helps your business and when it creates chaos

    ✅ What founders should do with the time they get back


    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction: Gabe Arnold & Simple Operations

    00:40 The founder driver trap

    02:14 Driver vs. dispatcher: an AI analogy

    06:11 From 60 hours to 30: open loops and leverage

    09:18 Why founders struggle to let go

    11:44 Traction & EOS: a tough take

    14:18 Growth without a system

    17:04 Leading from the passenger seat

    20:56 "It's faster if I do it myself"

    22:49 Hiring without clarity

    24:10 Should AI be in the driver's seat?

    27:39 What to do with the time AI frees up

    29:37 Advice to his younger self

    30:38 Where to connect with Gabe


    Connect with Gabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabearnold

    🔗 OTHER LINKS
    https://linktr.ee/buildwithmm

    👍 If this episode helped you, like, subscribe, and share it with a founder who's stuck in the driver's seat.

    #Zaptime #AITimeTracker #Productivity #FounderBurnout #ScalingABusiness #NextBuildPodcast #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #SmallBusiness #BusinessGrowth #Delegation #FounderMindset #BusinessSystems #EOS #CEO #AIForBusiness #PassengerSeatLeadership #WorkLifeBalance #BusinessOwner #Productivity #EntrepreneurPodcast #SimpleOperations #GabeArnold

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    31 min
  • The Silver Tsunami: Why Baby Boomers Aren't Ready to Sell Their Businesses
    Oct 1 2026

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    Most business owners think their company is worth more than it actually is. Fractional CFO Jeffrey Glick has spent his career on both sides of that conversation, building businesses up and helping investors decide what to pay for them, and in this episode he explains why so many owners aren't ready to sell when the time comes.

    About the guest
    Jeffrey Glick became CFO of a quarter billion dollar company at age 30, a role he held for sixteen years while helping grow the business to roughly 2 billion dollars in annual sales of precious metals to automakers including GM, Chrysler, Ford and Mitsubishi. Before that, he worked in M&A for Salomon Brothers, traveling the country to acquire oil refineries, pipelines and shipping companies. After his company's ownership changed hands around 2008, he founded Startup U, where he now works as a fractional CFO and compliance advisor for private equity firms, VCs, hedge funds and their portfolio companies.

    What this episode covers

    • Why a business can look profitable and still be unsellable
    • The real difference between an accountant, a controller and a CFO
    • A window manufacturer case study on why overall margin numbers can hide the real problem
    • Why working hard doesn't always mean a business is growing
    • How companies waste money on AI without a plan or a way to measure return
    • Why middle managers need to verify AI output instead of trusting it blindly
    • The risk of pasting confidential contracts and documents into public AI tools
    • How to tell a real AI consultant from a bot pretending to be one
    • What a quality of earnings report is and why you need one before going to market
    • How personal expenses run through the business quietly lower its sale price
    • Why Jeffrey tells owners to prepare two to three years before trying to sell

    Key moments
    0:00 Introduction and what Jeffrey does as a fractional CFO
    1:34 From the Bronx to Salomon Brothers to running a 2 billion dollar company
    7:20 Has the CFO role changed? Accountant vs. controller vs. CFO
    10:09 Case study: why "50% margin" can hide a much bigger problem
    12:09 Why working hard doesn't always mean a business is growing
    13:48 AI adoption vs. AI value, and how companies overspend on tokens
    15:49 What middle managers should actually be doing with AI
    18:59 Local AI models vs. cloud tools from a CFO's perspective
    23:04 The silver tsunami: preparing baby boomers to sell
    25:06 Does AI change how business value gets built?
    26:35 Protecting your business from fraud, bots and leaked data
    29:18 The biggest blind spot that keeps owners from a full price sale

    🔗Connect with Jeffrey Glick:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyglick

    🔗 OTHER LINKS
    https://linktr.ee/buildwithmm

    #Zaptime #AI #AIforBusiness #Productivity #CFO #FinanceLeadership #FinancialPlanning #CFOInsights #SmallBusinessFinance #NextBuildPodcast #BusinessPodcast #FinancePodcast #EntrepreneurPodcast



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    34 min
  • He Patented AI Gift-Giving | Carl Richards Explains How Govava Works
    Sep 18 2026

    Visit https://zaptime.ai and book a free demo today.


    This episode is brought to you by Zaptime, the AI-powered productivity and workforce analytics platform that shows you where your team's time actually goes.

    Can AI actually learn a person well enough to pick a gift they'll love? Carl Richards, founder of Govava, holds a patent on an AI and machine-learning system built to solve exactly that, and he explains why almost every gift you've ever bought online was a generic guess dressed up as a recommendation.

    Carl spent over a decade building Govava after struggling to find personalized gifts for his three daughters as their interests diverged. In this episode he breaks down how Govava's patented approach combines a person's "persona" and "active lifestyle" to move past generic gifting, why AI chatbots like ChatGPT can't actually solve the gifting problem the way people think, and how his AI concierge "Ava" is designed to feel less like a chatbot and more like a personal shopper who remembers you.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why 10 billion dollars is lost on unwanted gifts every year, and 1 in 3 Christmas gifts get returned
    • How Carl got a patent approved for an AI/machine-learning gift system when the patent office initially rejected it
    • "Persona" vs. "active lifestyle": the two-part framework behind every Govava recommendation
    • Why asking ChatGPT for a gift idea isn't the same as actually finding the right gift
    • How Govava's coupon API automatically applies savings across 8,000+ retailers like Walmart, Etsy, and Amazon
    • Inside Ava, Govava's AI concierge, and why she's built to remember you instead of treating every shopper the same
    • How Govava protects user data and why it never sells what you tell it about the people you're shopping for
    • Why Carl compares the Govava experience to walking into Disney, not scrolling through Amazon
    • Govava's claimed 90%+ gift accuracy rate versus the industry's 1-in-3 return rate
    • What the future of AI-driven, on-demand shopping looks like, and why Govava is actively raising investment ahead of its October relaunch

    This episode of the Next Build Podcast is brought to you by Zaptime, an AI powered productivity and workforce analytics platform that helps teams understand how time is actually being spent, surface real insights instead of guesswork, and get more done without adding more tools to the stack. If you want to see how Zaptime can bring clarity to your team's productivity, visit https://zaptime.ai and book a free demo today.

    🔗 LINKS
    https://linktr.ee/buildwithmm

    #Govava #AIGifting #GiftGiving #ArtificialIntelligence #Ecommerce #Entrepreneurship #TechStartup #ShoppingTech #NextBuildPodcast #Zaptime #PersonalizedShopping #StartupFounder #AIforBusiness #WorkforceManagement

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    35 min
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