How do you lead a traditional construction crew where employees stay for 20 years, alongside a fast-paced hospitality team made entirely of Gen Z?

In this episode of Mind the Generation Gap, host Louise Kennedy sits down with Sarah Leathem - a chartered accountant, Finance Director for her family’s construction company, and the owner of the Three Stories Bar in Sunderland.

Sarah shares her unique insights on managing vastly different workforces and bridging the ultimate workplace gap.

This episode covers:

The Traditional Hard Work vs. Work-Life Balance Debate: Sarah reflects on her early career working 12-hour days on an £8,000 salary, comparing her traditional grit to Gen Z’s focus on screen boundaries, health, and flexibility.

Hiring Gen Z Reality Hits: How to navigate the friction when younger workers arrive with a "we know better" attitude, yet need to understand the practical "why" behind workplace rules like site health and safety.

Bridging the Industry Divide: What a family-run construction firm can teach a hospitality business about retention, attitude, and team dynamics.

Whether you're struggling to recruit the next generation or trying to figure out how different eras can successfully work together, this conversation looks past the headlines to help you future-proof your business.

About the Show: Hosted by Louise Kennedy, founder of Oculus HR, Mind the Generation Gap explores how different generations can bring new ideas and opportunities to the modern workplace.

💬 Join the Conversation: Do you think traditional hard work is officially dead, or is Gen Z right to demand a work-life balance? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

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In this episode of Mind the Generation Gap, host Louise Kennedy sits down with Sam England, Director of People at Gentoo Group, to explore how a housing association with 1,200 employees is turning traditional HR on its head to engage a truly multi-generational workforce.

From a colleague celebrating 60 years of service to an influx of Gen Z apprentices, Sam explains how Gentoo bridges the gap by ditching "stuffy" corporate rituals in favour of trust, flexibility, and a deep-rooted sense of community purpose.They dive into Gentoo’s "Brilliant Conversations" model - a flexible, employee-led approach to performance that swaps formal office meetings for coffee-shop chats and walks, ensuring every generation feels heard and supported.

Sam also shares Gentoo's radical commitment to the Northeast, detailing how their Trades Academy and primary school outreach are building career aspirations for the next generation in the face of rising regional unemployment.

Key takeaways from this episode include:

• Values from the Bottom Up: How Gentoo moved away from top-down mandates by letting employees build their own values and behaviour frameworks.
• The Power of Over-Communication: Why transparency is vital for building trust across generations—even when there is "nothing to say".
• Mentorship and Belonging: How dedicated mentors and "buddy" systems help Gen Z and new starters feel secure and authentic at work from day one.
• Tackling Regional Poverty: Why businesses must look beyond their walls to address child poverty and pay a real living wage to future-proof their community.
• Strategic Future-Proofing: Balancing routes to retirement for veteran staff with massive apprentice intakes to solve long-term skills gaps.
• Advice for the Next Generation: Why Sam urges young people to be "curious over perfect" and never be afraid to ask the "stupid" questions.

About Our Guest: Sam England

Sam England is the Director of People at Gentoo Group, a Sunderland-based housing association where she has played a pivotal role in organisational culture for over a decade.Overseeing a diverse workforce of 1,200 colleagues, Sam is a passionate advocate for moving away from traditional, "stuffy" HR toward a strategic, purpose-driven model centred on trust and inclusivity.

Connect with Sam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-england-fcipd-a3454222/

Host Louise Kennedy is joined by Gen Z entrepreneur Lewis Hutchinson to dismantle the stereotypes surrounding the modern young professional.

Rejecting the traditional university route, Lewis has carved a unique path through social strategy and software development by prioritising human connection and "failing fast".

Key Discussion Points:

• Accidental Entrepreneurship: How Lewis built Cura by simply saying "yes" to a problem he didn't yet know how to solve.
• The "Fail Fast" Mantra: Building resilience through problem-solving and viewing every failure as a lesson.
• Managing Expectations: How employers can help Gen Z navigate "decision fatigue" and provide clear direction.
• The Power of In-Person Connection: Why a "coffee and a catch-up" is more valuable than any online meeting in a remote-first world.

Lewis offers a refreshing perspective on what it takes to succeed today, from managing the pressures of the digital age to the drive for personal fulfilment and "bragging rights" in one’s career.

About Our Guest:

Lewis Hutchinson is a Newcastle-based digital strategist and entrepreneur. He currently serves as Social Media Strategist at the award-winning agency Bumbl. Driven by a "yes, can do" attitude and a passion for problem-solving, Lewis expanded into accidental entrepreneurship by creating Cura, a software development agency that provides booking systems for the hair and beauty industry.

Join us as we bridge the gap and learn how to future-proof your business by embracing the drive and resilience of the next generation.

Connect with Lewis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lewis-hutchinson-a49174229/