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Human Innovation | The Jens Heitland Show

Human Innovation | The Jens Heitland Show

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Long form conversations with CEOs and senior leaders on leadership, decision making, and innovation inside complex organizations. Hosted by Jens Heitland, CEO of Heitland Media Group and former Global Head of Innovation at IKEA Centres. © The Jens Heitland Show - Heitland Media GroupJens Heitland Economia
  • EP242: The Quiet Cost of Unstructured Hiring
    Feb 12 2026
    What happens when hiring decisions are shaped more by memory than by structure?In this episode of Human Innovation, I sit down with Christian Wastlhuber to explore why recruitment in large organizations rarely fails loudly, and why it quietly becomes slower, more biased, and harder to explain.Christian shares his unusual path from Egyptology to recruitment and how studying human behavior at a distance has shaped how he views hiring systems today. We talk about why gut feeling dominates when processes are unstructured, how interpretation replaces evidence, and why many hiring problems are created by the environment rather than by people.We explore data driven recruitment beyond dashboards and metrics, focusing on qualitative signals, comparable interviews, and the role clarity that makes human judgment more reliable. We also discuss ownership, speed, candidate experience, and why recruiting behaves more like infrastructure than a service function.This conversation views hiring not as an HR task but as a human system that either learns or calcifies over time.In this episode, you will hear about:Why hiring slows down without clear process ownership How gut feeling becomes a substitute for structure What data driven recruitment really means beyond numbers Why comparable interviews reduce bias How small changes in rhythm can alter long term outcomesIf you work with people, build teams, or lead inside complex organizations, this episode offers a calm look at the systems you are already inside.Listen in and explore what human innovation looks like in recruitment.Highlights00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:32 Christian’s Background and Early Life03:45 Academic Journey and Egyptology08:16 Transition to Recruitment16:13 Data-driven Recruitment22:12 Structured Candidate Evaluation23:29 Team Collaboration24:19 Recruiting Responsibilities25:02 Understanding the Business26:06 The Impact of Data27:06 Process Challenges28:51 Candidate Experience31:55 Cost of Poor Hiring35:05 Implementing Structure41:57 The Future of Recruitment and AI45:04 Connecting on LinkedInGuest Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-wastlhuber/Business: https://www.unleashppl.com/deJens Heitland Links:Website: ⁠https://www.jensheitland.com/⁠Business: ⁠https://www.heitlandmediagroup.com/⁠LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jensheitland/⁠Facebook:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/JensHeitlandofficial/⁠Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/jensheitland/⁠TikTok:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@jensheitland⁠X/Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/jensheitland⁠Newsletter:⁠ https://www.jensheitland.com/newsletter⁠YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jens-heitland⁠Subscribe and listen to The Jens Heitland Show Podcast here: YT:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjuSGi1feauCNSER3IKuGWg⁠Web:⁠ https://www.jensheitland.com/podcasthome⁠Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jens-heitland-show-human-innovation/id1545043872?uo=4⁠Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7H0GWMGVALyXnnmstYA1NL⁠
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    47 min
  • Draft Book - Uncovering a CEO’s Voice - By Jens Heitland
    Jul 15 2025

    This is a pre-release audio version of my upcoming book for enthusiasts and people who dare to listen to a version that is still in progress


    Timecode:

    00:00 Chapter 1: The Time Reluctant Digital CEO

    12:01 Chapter 2: The Visibility Crisis

    27:59 Chapter 3: Uncovering the CEO's Superpower

    46:09 Chapter 4: Finding Purpose Beyond Profit

    01:05:47 Chapter 5: The Power of Story

    01:27:07 Chapter 6: Building the Digital Legacy Hub

    01:53:06 Chapter 7: Content Creation for the Time-Starved Executive

    02:19:08 Chapter 8: The Omnipresence Strategy

    02:46:02 Chapter 9: From Brand to Business Opportunities

    3:16:46 Chapter 10: Balancing the Dual Brand

    03:48:24 Chapter 11: The CEO's Digital Leadership Team

    04:10:13 Chapter 12: The Legacy Beyond the Role

    04:35:38 Epilogue: The Transformed Leader



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    4 ore e 47 min
  • EP241: Unleashing Creativity & Experience Design with Dorchess De Koning
    May 29 2025

    What happens when you bring embodiment, creativity, and intentional design into the way we work and lead? In this episode, I sit down with Dorchess De Koning, founder of Awe Academy, to explore how experience design can radically transform teams, organizations, and human connection.

    Dorchess shares her unique journey—from designing immersive childhood birthday parties to leading team workations and building learning experiences that blend play, purpose, and emotion. We dive into how embodiment reconnects us to ourselves, why workplaces need more awe and less autopilot, and how leaders can create cultures of curiosity and trust.

    This episode is a deep yet practical look at innovation through the lens of being fully human.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why embodiment is key to leadership and collaboration

    • How to design meaningful team experiences that build connection

    • The role of play and awe in adult learning and innovation

    • How Dorchess helps brands and organizations rethink engagement

    • Why small, thoughtful experiences often beat big, flashy ones

    Whether you're leading a team, building a brand, or just looking to reconnect with your creative self—this conversation is for you.

    Listen now and explore what it means to innovate as a whole human.


    Highlights:

    00:00 Introduction and Personal Background

    01:00 Meeting in the Netherlands

    02:44 First Encounter with Experience Design

    04:31 Transition to Entrepreneurship

    05:42 Exploring Interior Design

    07:04 The Importance of Embodiment

    11:08 Leadership and Team Connection

    17:38 Challenges in Modern Workplaces

    21:56 Brainstorming with Silly Costumes

    22:37 The Power of Experience Design

    23:27 Curated Activities for Deeper Learning

    24:17 Introducing Workation: Work and Vacation Combined

    26:15 Physical Exercises for Team Connection

    30:27 Experience Design for Brands

    32:42 Convincing the CFO: The Value of Experiential Marketing

    36:42 Unique Keynote Experiences

    39:19 Embracing Awe and Playfulness

    Guest Links:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorchess/

    Business: https://aweacademy.live/

    Jens Heitland Links:

    Website: https://www.jensheitland.com/

    Business: https://www.heitlandmediagroup.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jensheitland/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JensHeitlandofficial/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jensheitland/

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jensheitland

    X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/jensheitland

    Newsletter: https://www.jensheitland.com/newsletter

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jens-heitland

    Subscribe and listen to The Jens Heitland Show Podcast here:

    YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjuSGi1feauCNSER3IKuGWg

    Web: https://www.jensheitland.com/podcasthome

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jens-heitland-show-human-innovation/id1545043872?uo=4

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7H0GWMGVALyXnnmstYA1NL

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    41 min
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