Talking about Israel has become its own battleground.

Shanie sits down with Israeli writer, speaker, and creator Hen Mazzig to explore how the conversation around Israel became so polarized—and why disagreement so often turns into a fight over who gets to speak, what can be said, and which perspectives are considered legitimate.

They discuss the impact of social media on the Israel debate, the pressure to choose a side, and why holding multiple truths at once has become increasingly difficult. They also explore what productive disagreement can actually look like—and how we can make more room for people who are conflicted or still figuring out what they believe.

For more information on Hen, follow him on Substack or Instagram. You can learn more about the Tel Aviv Institute at https://tlvi.org/

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