In this expansive episode of Hidden Wisdom, Meghan Farner is joined by Phil McLemore for a deep exploration of the Perennial Philosophy—the timeless spiritual truth underlying all authentic religious traditions. Together, they discuss Christ not only as a historical figure, but as a universal pattern of consciousness revealed across mysticism, scripture, and lived spiritual experience.

This conversation bridges Christianity, Eastern wisdom, esoteric theology, and personal revelation, inviting listeners to move beyond dogma and into direct knowing. Phil and Meghan explore awakening, symbolic language, the limits of literalism, and what it means to truly “have eyes to see and ears to hear” in the modern spiritual journey.

This episode is for seekers who feel called to unity, depth, and spiritual maturity, and who sense that truth is larger—and more beautiful remembering—than any single tradition.

00:00 – 02:10 | Opening reflections and introduction to the episode’s theme

02:10 – 04:30 | Introducing Phil McLemore and his background in perennial wisdom

04:30 – 07:45 | What is the Perennial Philosophy? One truth, many expressions

07:45 – 11:20 | Why religions differ on the surface but agree at the mystical core

11:20 – 14:40 | Christ as a pattern of consciousness, not only a historical figure

14:40 – 18:05 | Symbolism vs. literalism in scripture and spiritual language

18:05 – 21:30 | “Eyes to see, ears to hear” — awakening beyond the ego mind

21:30 – 25:10 | Mysticism across traditions: Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and more

25:10 – 28:40 | Why fear-based religion resists mystical knowing

28:40 – 32:20 | The role of ego, identity, and surrender in spiritual awakening

32:20 – 36:00 | The Christ path as transformation, death, and rebirth

36:00 – 39:30 | Unity consciousness and the illusion of separation

39:30 – 43:10 | How perennial wisdom heals religious trauma and division

43:10 – 46:45 | Moving from belief to embodied knowing

46:45 – 50:20 | Practical integration: living from awakened awareness

50:20 – 53:00 | Final reflections on truth, humility, and spiritual maturity

53:00 – 54:30 | Closing thoughts and invitation to deeper inquiry

Hidden Wisdom initiates truth-seekers into the Mysteries, guiding listeners toward a lived experience of the Divine that awakens and transforms faith—without dismantling family or community. This podcast is perfect for women (and men) exploring faith renovation, spiritual awakening, Christian mysticism, sacred wisdom, and embodied spiritual growth.

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