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Dr. Chad Scott is a psychologist, author of "Beyond the Darkness," and expert in dark tourism - the practice of visiting places of death, disaster, tragedy, and suffering. From concentration camps to plantation slavery museums, he's traveled to some of humanity's darkest places and found unexpected hope and life lessons.

In this reflective dark tourism conversation, Stacey and Mark talk with Dr. Chad about what dark tourism really is (83% of Americans have visited a dark tourism site), how walking alone through the Auschwitz gas chamber changed his life forever, and why memories of D-Day helped him survive his liver transplant delay. He explains the difference between dark tourism and voyeurism, and how visiting sites of human suffering makes you love life more, not less.

Dr. Chad recommends two lesser-known dark tourism destinations: Whitney Plantation near New Orleans (which tells the slavery story from the enslaved perspective, focusing on children and women) and Glore Psychiatric Museum in Missouri (showing the evolution from barbaric "lunatic asylum" treatments to modern mental health care). He shares how these places become etched in your heart, not just your memory, and come back to speak to you when you need them most.

This conversation explores finding meaning in suffering, the psychology of resilience, why "comfort zones are for couch potatoes," and how stepping into humanity's darkest places teaches you what truly matters in life. Dr. Chad's message: Your darkness can become your greatest strength if you step outside your comfort zone and let these places teach you. Walking through darkness is the quickest way to see the brightness in life.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - What Is Dark Tourism?
2:03 - How Dr. Chad Got Into Dark Tourism
5:00 - The Liver Transplant That Changed Everything
6:11 - Finding Perspective in Places of Suffering
8:04 - Do You Feel Presence at Dark Tourism Sites?
9:28 - Alone in the Auschwitz Gas Chamber
10:55 - Two Obscure Dark Tourism Sites Everyone Should Visit
11:26 - Whitney Plantation: Slavery From the Enslaved Perspective
12:33 - Does Dark Tourism Change Your View of Humanity?
13:32 - Glore Psychiatric Museum: The Evolution of Mental Health Treatment
15:15 - Why He Wrote "Beyond the Darkness"
16:23 - Resilience: Your Darkness Becomes Your Greatest Strength
17:48 - The Message: Comfort Zones Are for Couch Potatoes

Connect with Dr. Chad Scott: Book: "Beyond the Darkness" (Amazon, Barnes & Noble, local bookstores) Website: https://DrChadScott.com Facebook: Chad Scott Author

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Keywords: dark tourism, reflective travel, Dr. Chad Scott, Beyond the Darkness, visiting Auschwitz, places of tragedy, finding meaning in suffering, resilience, liver transplant story, Whitney Plantation, Glore Psychiatric Museum, transformative travel, Holocaust memorials, slavery museums, mental health history, personal transformation

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🗣️ Dr. Kim Nugent is a leadership development expert and author of "From Prison to Possibilities" who created a peer-to-peer mentorship program operating in prisons across multiple states. After receiving an unexpected call in 2018, she began training inmates to become certified mentors for other inmates, creating structured 6-month programs focused on behavioral change, employability skills, and release planning.

In this prison mentorship conversation, Stacey and Mark talk with Dr. Kim about why 68% of released inmates are rearrested within three years (recidivism statistics), how peer-led mentorship in prisons reduces recidivism up to 40%, and why men with life sentences often make the most committed prison mentors. She shares powerful transformation stories, including how facilities with her inmate mentorship program saw rule violations drop dramatically - from 300 per month on average to just 6 violations total over three years among program participants.

Dr. Kim explains the difference between mentors, coaches, and teachers in prison settings, why incarcerated individuals respond better to peer guidance than staff instruction, and how ownership of mentorship programs creates lasting behavioral change. She also discusses the ripple effects of prison reform through mentorship: correctional officers seeing inmates differently after graduations, families noticing behavioral changes in their incarcerated loved ones, and participants developing their own community bylaws and leadership structures within facilities.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Prison Recidivism Statistics: The 68% Problem
1:16 - How Dr. Kim Started Prison Mentorship Work
2:24 - What Makes an Effective Mentor in Prison
4:01 - Who Becomes a Prison Mentor
6:09 - Why Life Sentence Inmates Make the Best Mentors
7:23 - What Makes This Prison Program Different 10:19 - Can Outside Volunteers Be Prison Mentors?
14:29 - The 6-Month Inmate Mentorship Program Structure
15:39 - Training Inmates to Become Mentor Trainers 16:35 - Prison Violence Statistics: 98% Rule Violation Drop
17:07 - Seeing Transformation in Incarcerated Individuals
18:18 - When Correctional Officers' Perspectives Changed
19:09 - Behavioral Change: People Do Better When They Know Better

Connect with Dr. Kim Nugent: Book: "From Prison to Possibilities: Paving Your Path Through Peer Mentorship" - Amazon Website: https://DrNugentSpeaks.com

Related Topics: prison mentorship programs, inmate mentors, recidivism reduction, prison reform, behavioral change in prisons, peer mentorship, prisoner rehabilitation, criminal justice reform, reentry programs, incarcerated mentorship, prison violence reduction, life sentence inmates, correctional officer training, second chances, inmate leadership development

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🤔 Brad Beeler protected President George W. Bush as a Secret Service agent. Then he spent 17 years giving more criminal polygraph exams than anyone in Secret Service history - interrogating murderers, bank robbers, child predators

🗣️ He sat across from murderers, bank robbers, child predators, and liars of every kind. And he learned something: catching a liar isn't about reading body language.

It's about asking the RIGHT questions.

Brad gives you 3 questions that reveal liars almost every time. These questions work because of how our brains process lies - and most people have NO idea they're being tested.

Bonus technique: The Tall Tale Trick

Plus how to perfect the World's Perfect Handshake.

And why lying is neurologically HARD to do.

Brad's #1 Communication Rule:
"Be the most interested person in the room. Ask 80% of the questions. Let people teach you about what they love. That's when they let their guard down."

About Brad's Book:
"Tell Me Everything" (February 17, 2026) - Not just about polygraphs or interrogation, it's a communication book. How to get anyone to open up, tell the truth, and connect on a deeper level.

Resources:
Instagram/LinkedIn: @bradbeeler1865
Website: https://bradleybeeler.com/
Book: "Tell Me Everything" (Pre-order available)

Chapters:

[00:00] Cold Open
[01:46] Meet Brad Beeler
[06:30] The World's Perfect Handshake
[09:51] The 3 Questions That Catch Liars
[14:51] Why Lying Is Hard
[16:47] The Tall Tale Trick
[19:30] Why Polygraphs Aren't Admissible
[22:51] "Tell Me Everything" - The Book
[24:23] Be the Most Interested Person
[29:00] High Profile Cases

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