The Red Wings beat the Florida Panthers on the first half of a back-to-back, and Greg and Ryan record with the Tampa game still going. They start with Pierre LeBrun’s report that Pat Brisson turned down Shawn Horcoff’s request to expand Dylan Larkin’s list, why Horcoff holds the leverage, and Brandon Hagel’s comments on players requesting trades. They also dig into the Simon Edvinsson angles, from the CAA connection to sign-and-trade and offer-sheet scenarios, and the goalie situation with Gibson hurt, Tarasov in, and Postava waiting in Grand Rapids.

Second half: Michael Brandsegg-Nygård is doing something no NHL player has done since hits started being tracked. The hosts go through his place in the hit leaderboard and rookie scoring, the Calder case, and where he compares to Johan Franzen, Brendan Shanahan, and Dan Cleary. Plus a look at a very tough November schedule.

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Episode 415. Dylan Larkin’s agent, Pat Brisson, told Shawn Horcoff that Larkin will no longer play for the Red Wings, and the team responded by suspending him without pay. Greg and Ryan break down the Red Wings’ statement, Brisson’s statement, Darren Dreger’s report that CAA believes trades on the 10-team list were close, and Horcoff’s press conference.

They cover Larkin’s season so far, how Emmitt Finnie took over the top center spot, how the team played against Chicago with Larkin gone, and why Horcoff has leverage. Also: Larkin’s career totals with Detroit (818 games, 278 goals, 649 points), what he’s giving up in salary, and what a first game back at Little Caesars Arena would look like.

Second half: Simon Edvinsson still has no contract. Elliotte Friedman says Detroit and San Jose have talked about him, and Michael Misa’s name keeps coming up. Greg and Ryan walk through the San Jose cap math, the Dmitry Orlov angle, why an Edvinsson trade could unlock a Larkin deal, and where the Wild, Devils, Mammoth, Golden Knights, and Stars fit on Kevin Weekes’ list of likely Larkin destinations.

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The Red Wings beat the Edmonton Oilers in a shootout, and Michal Postava makes a statement in his first NHL start. Greg and special guest Brandon from the Hockey Town West Podcast break down 25 saves, the Dominik Hasek comparison, and what it means for the goalie picture with John Gibson, Daniil Tarasov, and the trade of Sebastian Cossa. Also: Moritz Seider shutting down Connor McDavid, and Michael Brandsegg-Nygård’s franchise-record hit total and Calder case.

Then a full Grand Rapids Griffins prospect report. The Griffins are off to one of the best starts in franchise history, and the hosts cover Jesse Kiiskinen, Carter Bear, Trey Augustine, and Keienan Draper, plus the depth signings who are making a difference.

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Dylan Larkin’s trade list now has 10 teams on it, and Greg and Tyler go through each one: Florida, Minnesota, Vegas, Dallas, Washington, Carolina, Utah, Tampa Bay, New Jersey, and Colorado. They sort out who has the cap space, who has the prospects Detroit would want, and why Utah looks like the best fit. Plus Jim Devellano’s “kissed and made up” comment, John Buccigross saying a deal is coming within seven to ten days, and where Simon Edvinsson stands after Shawn Horcoff met with his agent in person.

Then the Seattle game. The Red Wings trail 3-0 after two periods, rally with goals from Alex DeBrincat (his 300th), Lucas Raymond and Viktor Arvidsson, and lose in a shootout. The hosts cover Daniil Tarasov’s night in net, the case for playing Nate Danielson over Michael Rasmussen, and Emmitt Finnie’s move to top-line center, a seventh-round pick who keeps getting better every game.

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The Red Wings lose 5-4 in overtime to New Jersey and sit 1-3-2, but the night brings the first real good news of the season: Alex DeBrincat is signing a seven-year, $91 million extension. Greg, Ryan and Tyler go through the contract details, the no-trade protection, and why DeBrincat, Emmett Finney and Michael Brandsegg-Nygård (all four Detroit goals against New Jersey) are the best thing about this team right now.

They also take on John Gibson’s slow start and the case for Daniil Tarasov, Moritz Seider’s best play of the year, Justin Faulk’s defensive trouble, and the newest Simon Edvinsson update, including the Flyers rumor.

Second half: the hosts ask whether the locker room has a losing mentality, whether it’s time to clear out the veterans left over from the Yzerman era and hand the team to the kids, and how the Dylan Larkin situation is weighing on everyone. Tyler makes the case that this roster is closer to good than it looks.

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The Red Wings beat Ottawa with Dylan Larkin back in the lineup and no C on his jersey. Greg and Ryan break down the night: Larkin booed on every touch, then named first star after a goal and an assist, two goals from Alex DeBrincat, three assists from Lucas Raymond, Justin Faulk’s 500th point, and Emmitt Finnie dropping the gloves for the first time.

They also dig into the rookies. Anton Johansson, William Wallinder, Carter Mazur, and Nate Danielson all had strong nights, and MBN keeps running through people at 14 minutes a game. Plus the 5v5 numbers behind the win and Larkin’s looser postgame interview.

Second half: reports that Jeff Greenberg was the preferred GM candidate before pulling out over autonomy, Frank Seravalli on Shawn Horcoff working with “training wheels,” and what it says about Chris Ilitch’s grip on the hockey side. The hosts compare how other NHL owners run their teams, walk through what an NHL takeover would take, and talk about what fans can do while the GM search sits on pause.

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Simon Edvinsson is still in Sweden, the Red Wings are 0-2, and now there are reports he might want out. Greg and Ryan go through the four reports from October 5th, including Elliotte Friedman's update, Chris Johnson's report that the first contract offer didn't come until mid-September, and Dave Pagnotta's number on the six-year pitch that Greg says falls well short of the market.

Before that, Kris Draper moves over to run pro scouting, and Chris Ilitch posts a statement on LinkedIn after opening night. Ryan was at the home opener and describes what it looked like from the stands: boos during intros, noticeably empty seats, "sell the team" chants, and Larkin jerseys with the name crossed out.

Then the games. Emmitt Finneie looks like a natural at center, MBN keeps getting to the front of the net, and the vets are still shaking off rust after a shortened preseason. Plus a closer look at Anton Johansson, who has been one of the best things about the start of the season.

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Three days before puck drop, Simon Edvinsson still doesn't have a locker in the Red Wings dressing room. Greg and Tyler break down the contract standoff, the reported $9-10 million ask, the bridge-deal rumors, and why locking up a 23-year-old, 6'6" defenseman shouldn't be this hard.

Then the 23-man opening night roster is out. Full breakdown of the lines and pairings, the center depth problems up front, and real bright spots on defense with Anton Johansson and a goaltending tandem that looks like an actual upgrade.

Second half: JFresh's 2026-27 standings projection has the Red Wings near the bottom of the league, what the lineup looks like if Dylan Larkin actually suits up, and Bob Duff's report that the Larkin situation may already be past the point of reconciliation.

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