Glitterpill Podcast

Welcome to the Glitterpill Podcast, where we explore extremism, disinformation, and resilience with honesty, clarity, and heart. Each episode brings insights from researchers, practitioners, and cultural voices on how we navigate this moment in history without losing ourselves.

In This Episode
Stefano cuts through the noise to reveal the hard truths about cartels beyond the culture war headlines and academic siloes. Expect gripping field stories, sharp analysis, and practical tools for building resilience in the face of organized crime. We also open up about our own struggles with academia, what they miss in the race to stay "relevant," what "The War on Drugs" framing misses in this present moment, and the blind spots that still need shoring up.

Why It Matters
Glitterpill is about seeing beyond the noise, arming yourself with information, rejecting both the red pill and blue pill and finding creative ways to thrive in dangerous times.

Links & Resources

• SITREP: sitrep.artorias.com

• Artorias Tech: X | Instagram

• Featured source: Newlines Institute – Rise of Militarized Cartels

• Follow Glitterpill: Twitter

• Jellyfish Trafficking: The Daily Beast
• Avocado Cartels: CNN

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with Elsa Korinke, Somatic Practitioner

If you've spent one too many hours in "industry convenings" that feel more like a Broadway revival than a strategy session, this one's for you.

I sit down with Elsa Korinke, a somatic practitioner, to talk about what real healing looks like when the CVE world can't stop throwing its endless Parade of Hope. From the body's quiet wisdom to the field's obsession with pageantry, we trace the slapstick dance between sincerity and spectacle.

And yes, we even ask: what can a cartoon purple rhino teach extremism researchers about surviving burnout, reclaiming joy, and remembering why any of this work matters in the first place?

Absurd? Of course. Necessary? More than ever.

Catch Elsa's new offerings here.

Join us in the Glitterpill community this September and begin the process of joyful self discovery.

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🎙️Episode Description

Welcome back to The Glitterpill Podcast, your go-to for high-stakes insight, psychological subversion, and resilience in the age of narrative warfare. I'm your host, Samantha Kutner.

Today's episode is essential listening for intel nerds, NATO analysts, and anyone tracking how domestic extremists are syncing up with foreign disinformation ops like it's a blacksite LAN party.

Our guest? The legendary Agent Pale Horse himself—Scott Payne, a retired FBI undercover operative who infiltrated America's most dangerous white supremacist groups. His story is the subject of White Hot Hate (CBC, Season Two) and the new memoir Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis.

This episode is a blueprint—for understanding accelerationist networks, for recognizing the seductive logic of hate, and for creating meaningful off-ramps.

🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

Grab your copy of Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis, now a New York Times bestseller here!

🎙️ Scott Payne on other platforms:

• Joe Rogan Experience #2295 – Scott Payne
  
  

• FBI Retired Case File Review, Ep. 289 – Reflections from an undercover operative
  
  

🗂️ Background on The Base:

• ARC Consortium

• The Guardian: Russian spy allegations against The Base leader
  
  

🧠 Ideological Frameworks & Intel Reads:

• CTC at West Point: Multi-Node Neo-Fascist Structures
  
  

• Raw Story: The Proud Boys & Accelerationism
  
  

• Proud Boys Analysis
  
  

📰 Current Events:

• BBC: Extremist Threats in Focus
  
  

• Times of Israel: May 6, 2025 Liveblog
  
  

• CNN: Gaza Flotilla Ship Intercepted
  
  

🧘‍♂️ Thinking About Leaving?

Life After Hate provides support for those exiting violent extremist groups. If you or someone you know is looking for a way out, they're here to help.

Yes, you read that right. Scott is also a musician. Enjoy his cover of "Simple Man", featuring Jonathan S. Hendrix (acoustic) and Casey Hauschildt (lead guitar).

🎶 Watch/Listen here

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🎙️ Aging Like a Fine Wine: A Historic Conversation with Enrique Tarrio & Samantha Kutner

🔥 A Pivotal Moment for Enrique Tarrio & the Future of Extremist Movements

For the first time ever, Enrique Tarrio and Samantha Kutner sit down for a candid discussion about his next steps after the January 6th trial and the Proud Boys' trademark loss to a historic Black church. Tarrio insists he's aging like a fine wine—but let's just say there's some debate over whether the cork is still on.

This episode explores what happens when extremist leaders face legal and ideological reckonings, the leadership voids and fractures in far-right movements, and what this all means for radicalization, disengagement, and accountability.

💡 What You'll Discover in This Episode

🔹 Tarrio's reflections on the trial, the trademark case, and his next steps

🔹 The impact of legal consequences on far-right organizing

🔹 How extremist movements struggle with leadership voids and rebranding

🔹 What this means for individuals questioning their involvement in extremist spaces

🚀 My Advisory Offerings & Community Resources

I work with organizations, journalists, policymakers, and community leaders to counter extremism, disinformation, and radicalization. If you need expert guidance, here's how I can help:

🔹 Extremism & Disinformation Advisory – Helping organizations cut through noise with intelligence-backed strategies. 📌 Book a session:

🔹 Data-Driven Threat Analysis – Identifying emerging threats for journalists, security professionals, and research teams.

🔹 Disengagement & Resilience Building – Developing interventions for individuals leaving extremism.

🔹 The Glitterpill Community – A space for those witnessing fascism unfold and looking for actionable steps. 📌 Join here

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🎯Connect with Me Privately

If you or someone you know is struggling with radicalization, disinformation, or the fallout of extremism, you can reach out privately for guidance. Whether you're reconsidering your involvement, seeking a way out, or just need clarity, my inbox is open.

📩 For Proud Boys and others seeking to leave, learn more here: 📌

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About This Episode

In this episode, we open with a powerful read from Leslie Jamison, a writer who understands the tension between feeling deeply and carrying on. Her words remind us that vulnerability isn't weakness—it's part of how we survive.

About The Glitterpill Community

In the work we do—dissecting extremism, unraveling disinformation, and navigating heavy conversations—it's easy to feel like you're losing a piece of yourself. The burnout, the cynicism, the isolation—it all takes a toll. But this February, let's reclaim what makes us human.

The Glitterpill Community is your refuge. Here, we believe that staying engaged doesn't mean losing your heart. Through creativity, joy, and intentional care, we help you sustain your passion without sacrificing your well-being.

This month's theme? Not Losing Your Heart.

🔸 How do we stay soft in hard times?
🔸 How do we love what we do without it breaking us?
🔸 How do we fight without becoming what we fight against?

Join us and find out. With monthly discussion themes, guided self-care practices, and a support network that truly understands, Glitterpill is more than a community—it's your heart's armor.

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Loving your work doesn't mean letting it consume you. At Glitterpill, we believe in loving fiercely and thinking critically, without losing our softness.

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This February, let's stay open, stay grounded, and stay whole. Because the work is important—but so is your heart. ❤️✨

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🎁 January Kick Off

Transformational Conversations at Glitterpill 📚 Have you ever wondered how deep exploration of self and community interactions can change your life? At Glitterpill's January Kickoff, we're all about uncovering subconscious patterns and leveraging them for personal and collective growth. Join our community discussions and experience the power of shared insights and support. 🙌 Let's make this year about meaningful change and authentic connections. #Transformation #CommunitySupport #PersonalDevelopment

• ✨ Poor Things - A journey of self-discovery and authentic living
• 🌙 Mother! - Exploring balance between dedication and self-preservation

• 🌟 Like, Follow, Trafficked Watch Here Learn about authenticity vs. social media influence

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🎁 Special Feature

This month includes an exclusive alchemical office hours session with community member Emily Kugler. We'll explore this approach in depth during week 3, combining daily 15-20 minute practices to align your actions with your aspirations.

Featured Guest: Emily Kugler

Emily M. N. Kugler is an Associate Professor at Howard University whose work bridges 18th-century literature, digital humanities, and Black and LGBTQ+ studies. Her groundbreaking research focuses on slavery, empire, and gender, while leading important digital projects on women in abolitionist movements.

She's also been a member of The Glitterpill Community for years and was one of the early adopters of my Alchemical Office Hours Sessions which she has generously allowed us to share (Live January 2nd)!

• ✨ Visual inspiration (magazines, Pinterest)
• 📝 Poster board
• ✂️ Scissors and glue
• 📔 Journal
• 🖋️ Writing materials

• 🌅 Daily practice (15-20 minutes)
• 🦋 Growth mindset
• 🌸 Self-care and reflection

• ✨ Poor Things - A journey of self-discovery and authentic living
• 🌙 Mother! - Exploring balance between dedication and self-preservation

• 🌟 Like, Follow, Trafficked Watch Here Learn about authenticity vs. social media influence

🌿 Book a Pay-What-You-Can Office Hour session for personalized support

✨ Schedule Now

Can't find a suitable time? Send me a message to coordinate! 💌

💫 Remember: This is your magical journey. Move at your own pace and honor your process. These materials are here to support your unique path to growth, not to restrict it.

In this episode, Anya and I engage in a spirited conversation about our experiences at The New York International Salsa Congress.

We delve into personal growth through dance, explore the dynamic between trendy and timeless elements, and share invaluable advice from Anya Katsevman—a renowned trainer of champions. Our sponsor for this episode is Worldtone Dance, a company that has been proudly serving dancers since 1969.

Explore their collection and schedule an appointment to visit their showroom at https://worldtonedance.com/. Worldtone Dance is passionate about supporting New York City's vibrant dance communities—tag them on Instagram @worldtonedance for a chance to be featured in their stories!

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