On this episode of the On The Rise Podcast, host Jeremy Dyer talks with Anthony Rushing — former educator, 40-unit real estate investor, and mortgage professional — about a little-known strategy: the first lien HELOC. Anthony traces his unusual path from quitting college for a rock band to Teach for America to the mortgage industry, where he discovered a product that's common in Australia and Europe but rarely discussed in the U.S. He breaks down, in plain terms, how a first lien HELOC replaces your mortgage entirely, why it can pay a home off in years instead of decades, who it actually works for, and how it can free up liquidity to start investing. A genuinely educational conversation on using debt as a tool.

On this episode of the On The Rise Podcast's Faith Driven Leaders series, host Nick Stromwall talks with Andrew McNair, founder and CEO of Swan Capital (Sleep Well At Night) in Pensacola, Florida, a firm managing north of $300 million. A self-described "generosity evangelist" who has made and lost millions, Andrew makes the case that a fulfilled life isn't about accumulating — it's about giving it away. He unpacks his 10/20/70 framework, a controversial take on estate planning, how he weaves faith and giving into his company, and how to model generosity so it passes to the next generation. A challenging, practical conversation on money, stewardship, and legacy.

In this forum episode of the On The Rise Podcast, Jeremy Dyer, VP of Capital Formation at Rise 48, welcomes Tommy Hinson, CEO of Investors 1031 Exchange, for a plain-English walkthrough of the 1031 exchange. Tommy explains how investors defer capital gains by rolling real estate into more real estate — "swap till you drop" — until a stepped-up basis erases the tax at death. The session covers the types of exchanges, the same-taxpayer rule and why partnerships cause problems, the 45- and 180-day deadlines, reinvesting 100% of equity, TIC and DST structures, the 721 UPREIT endgame, and a case study showing how much you lose by skipping a 1031. A practical primer for real estate investors.