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The Devil You Don’t Know: Marriage, Mental Health & the Patterns That Shape Us

The Devil You Don’t Know: Marriage, Mental Health & the Patterns That Shape Us

Di: Lindsay Oakes & Cleveland Oakes
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The Devil You Don’t Know is a candid mental-health and culture podcast hosted by married counselors Lindsay and Cleveland Oakes. Through humor, personal stories, honest disagreements, and practical psychology, they uncover the hidden patterns affecting our relationships, identities, families, and emotional lives. From mindfulness and healing to marriage, society, and the everyday messiness of being human, Lindsay and Cleveland explore what it takes to recognize our patterns—and choose something different.


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  • If Indeed You Continue: Change Is Real Only If You Keep Returning
    Sep 27 2026

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    You can quit the job, start therapy, set the boundary, have the hard conversation, and finally feel like yourself again. Then the next ordinary Tuesday shows up, nobody celebrates, and you realize the part no one warns you about: you still have to continue. That’s what we’re digging into, with a simple but demanding question that shapes real change: If indeed you continue, what does that look like when life gets noisy again?

    We connect the dots between mindfulness meditation and psychotherapy, including why the core skill is returning, not staying perfect. We talk about compassion that actually works: seeing clearly without shame, taking accountability without self-hatred, and using tools like Tara Brach’s RAIN practice and the sacred pause to interrupt old patterns. We also address mental health stigma head-on, naming why depression and anxiety are not weakness, and why spiritual practices can support healing but can’t replace clinical care.

    Then we get practical with relapse prevention and habit change. We break down the difference between acute treatment, continuation treatment, and maintenance treatment, why relapse doesn’t mean failure, and why new habits often take longer than motivation. We bring it back to real life: boundaries that prevent burnout, non-attachment that keeps you steady, and relationship check-ins that stop “drift” before it quietly reorganizes your whole calendar.

    If this conversation helps you name what you’re trying to keep, share it with a friend who’s in the messy middle, then subscribe and leave a review so more people can find the show. What’s one small practice you’ll commit to this week?

    Please email us at Gettoknowthedevil@gmail.com

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  • Let the Kids Figure it Out: You Can Love Them Without Managing Them
    Aug 23 2026

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    You can love your adult kid deeply and still stop managing their life. After a week of exhausting college move-ins, we zoom out into the real topic: what it means to “let the kids figure it out” when they’re grown, opinionated, and sometimes still acting like you’re their on-call customer service desk. We get honest about the everyday stuff that triggers parents, the money conversations, and the way adult kids can have excellent taste when it’s your credit card, then suddenly become bargain hunters when it’s theirs.

    We break down the difference between concern and control, and why backing off is not the same as not caring. A lot of overparenting comes from love, but it can also come from anxiety, guilt, fear of judgment, and the uncomfortable loss of identity when your kids don’t “need” you the same way. We talk enmeshment, healthy boundaries, and how to stay connected even when your adult child is making choices you wouldn’t make.

    We also dig into what research says about helicopter parenting and why it can chip away at self-efficacy, confidence, and emotional regulation. You’ll leave with practical language you can use, a simple framework for when to be a witness versus a coach, and seven questions to ask yourself before you swoop in to fix it. If you’ve ever wondered where the line is between supportive and controlling, hit play, then share this with a parent or an adult kid who needs it and leave us a review. What boundary are you trying to set right now?

    Please email us at Gettoknowthedevil@gmail.com

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    57 min
  • If You Think This One Is About You, Maybe It Is: The Movie Of Me
    Aug 16 2026

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    If you’ve ever read something, heard a conversation, or listened to a podcast and thought, “Wait, are they talking about me?” you already know the feeling we’re unpacking. We call it the “Movie Of Me” the nonstop inner production where we assume the camera is pointed at us, every reaction is a verdict, and other people’s choices must be secretly about our worth.

    We connect this to real psychology and real life: the spotlight effect, the way we react to our perception of events, and how insecurity can masquerade as self-centeredness. Along the way, we share stories that make the pattern obvious (and a little uncomfortable), from feedback at work to friendships strained by constant venting, to the chaos of drivers who act like rules don’t apply to them. We also talk about how we cast ourselves in familiar roles like the helper, the expert, the victim, the peacemaker, or the misunderstood one, and what it costs when we refuse to leave that seat.

    Then we get practical. Lindsay breaks down how mindfulness meditation trains the exact skill most of us are missing: noticing the story, pausing, and choosing a different response. “Name it, pause, and allow it” becomes a simple way to stop spiraling, take perspective, and stay curious instead of defensive. If you want better communication, healthier boundaries, and more freedom inside your own mind, this conversation is for you.

    Subscribe for more, share this with someone who needs a gentler mirror, and leave a review so more people can find the show. What’s one moment this week when you made yourself the main character?

    Please email us at Gettoknowthedevil@gmail.com

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