The Cost of Dishonesty, with Lois Norris (Part 1)
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In this episode of Listening First, Patrick and Ben speak with barrister Lois Norris for part 1 of their 2-part series which explores the complex topic of fundamental dishonesty in personal injury claims. Lois shares her insights on how dishonesty is defined within the legal framework (in the UK), referencing a landmark case involving edge sorting at a casino that reached the Supreme Court. The discussion delves into the nuances of what constitutes dishonesty, emphasising the importance of an objective standard based on societal perceptions. Lois explains the distinction between general dishonesty and fundamental dishonesty, highlighting how the latter can significantly impact the outcome of a claim, including the potential for dismissal and financial repercussions for claimants.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Lois Norris and Her Journey into Law
06:52 Understanding the Role of Barristers vs. Solicitors
09:33 Defining Dishonesty in Legal Terms
12:41 The Concept of Fundamental Dishonesty
15:43 Consequences of Fundamental Dishonesty
17:39 Real-Life Implications and Case Examples
20:49 The Impact of Memory and Inconsistency in Claims
23:59 Social Media's Role in Perceptions of Dishonesty
26:54 The Human Element in Rehabilitation and Recovery
29:54 White Coat Syndrome and Its Implications
37:56 Exploring Dishonesty in Law
39:06 Anticipating the Role of a Barrister
39:33 Outro/Credits
Credits:
Patrick Boyd - Co-host/Producer
Dr Ben Marram - Co-host/Producer
Lois Norris - Guest
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