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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists.

Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad?

Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics.

From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style.

The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho.

Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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  • The Two Jacks - 176 - When the Centre Cannot Hold: Le Pen, the AfD and a Fraying West
    Oct 21 2026
    Deepseek, bitches! Version 4 - but Pro bro. Pretty crap tbh. Title sucks. HKJ says some completely wrong things about an Edinburgh study on bots. I am assured this will be clarified next episode. No, the extent of Russian bot activity is not limited to 5,000 tweets. He read the study wrong. Stay tuned next week for more! Episode SummaryThis week Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack open with the rioting that has swept across France — from Bordeaux and Paris to Marseille — unpacking how a student protest over school closures metastasised into a broader movement against the French state. They trace its genesis, flag the racial and religious dimension signalled by Palestinian, Moroccan and Algerian flags, and examine what it could mean for Marine Le Pen ahead of a likely presidential tilt.The pair then turn home, covering the Victorian election, the federal public servant pay rise, and a wider argument about productivity, growth and "late capitalism." From there they range across a resurgent far-right in Germany, Russian interference in Brexit, New Zealand's finely balanced election, and Indonesia's looming MSCI downgrade — a story they note is barely being reported in Australia despite its significance to our region.Sport rounds out the show with Test cricket's uncertain future, the Wallabies' woes, the Rugby League World Cup, and a nod to the AFLW.Timestamped Highlights(Timestamps adjusted to include the 25-second theme music intro.)00:25 — Jack the Insider welcomes listeners to Episode 176 and introduces Hong Kong Jack.00:55 — Opening on the riots in Paris and Bordeaux, with footage of burning vehicles and looted stores, including the Apple Store and Louis Vuitton in Bordeaux.01:52 — Genesis of the protests: the closure of roughly 400 schools and the involvement of students aged 15 to 18, later joined by university students and the "Yellow Vest" anarchist activists.03:46 — Hong Kong Jack notes the Palestinian, Moroccan and Algerian flags, raising the racial and religious element.04:25 — Le Pen's opportunism: supporting the police while milking grievances; a potential "stop Le Pen" coalition falling apart.11:26 — Kevin Rudd's "democracy experiment" warning and the fragility of democracy worldwide.12:33 — The "late capitalism" argument: the first generation with less wealth than its parents.14:12 — Ben Carroll and the Victorian "red shirts" scandal; a month out from the Victorian election.16:00 — The Albanese government's pay offer of at least 9% over three years to 200,000 federal public servants, below union demands for 15%.16:35 — Matthias Cormann's productivity argument, and whether pay without productivity just raises prices.21:54 — One Nation and the SMH's $275 billion revenue cost of slashing immigration; polling on Andy Burnham.28:02 — The AfD's rise in Germany; the centre-right CDU shedding votes to the far-right, and the AfD leader's appeasement line on Russia and Ukraine.32:25 — New Zealand's election and the kingmaker role of centrist party TOP (The Opportunities Party).35:34 — Russian interference in Brexit: the ISC Russia report, bot farms, and the debate over whether interference changed the outcome.41:00 — Why Australia's elections are harder to manipulate: the AEC, compulsory voting and compulsory preferences.49:54 — Indonesia's MSCI downgrade — market manipulation and "ghost owners" — and the $3–5 billion in immediate outflows forecast by JP Morgan and UBS.55:30 — How little Indonesian news reaches Australia, despite it being our most important geopolitical partner.57:12 — The impact of One Nation on the federal election and the Nationals' survival in regional Australia.01:09:00 — Test cricket's future and the financial struggles of West Indies cricket.01:19:45 — The Wallabies' second-half capitulation to the All Blacks and the "Giteau Law" eligibility question.01:21:45 — The Rugby League World Cup's group structure and whether Australia is too dominant.01:25:00 — AFLW: Geelong over the Eagles, and a high-skill Giants–Hawthorn clash.01:27:00 — Sign-off and DMs open on X.Episode Titles (for Australian audiences)Riots in France, Red Shirts at Home: The Two Jacks Read the WeekFrom Bordeaux to the Beehive: France Burns While Oz VotesWhen the Centre Cannot Hold: Le Pen, the AfD and a Fraying West$275 Billion Questions: One Nation, Pay Rises and the Cost of DiscontentIndonesia's Quiet Crisis and the Wallabies' Loud OneSocial Media PostsX / Twitter France is burning, and the next generation will be poorer than their parents. @JacktheInsider and Hong Kong Jack read the week — and why it all points back to your hip pocket. New Two Jacks out now.Facebook Salut from Hong Kong — this week we're tracking the riots tearing through France and what they mean for Le Pen, the AfD's surge in Germany, and a Victorian election that's anyone's guess. Plus: why Indonesia's market meltdown barely made our papers, the Wallabies' second-half shocker,...
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  • The Two Jacks - Episode 175 - One Nation’s Big Test, Albo’s Balancing Act and Trump’s Midterm Gamble
    Oct 13 2026
    Latest episode but I think this one took a while to go up as well. GPT Sol again. Did a good job. Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack return with a packed discussion of Australian politics, international affairs and sport. One Nation’s Victorian campaign rhetoric sparks a debate about due process and the challenges of turning protest votes into mainstream support. The Jacks assess the Greens’ leadership change, Australia’s under-16 social media ban, and the electoral outlook in New South Wales and Victoria.They also tackle tobacco excise and the black market, whether Anthony Albanese is being underestimated, and the government’s economic challenges. Overseas, the conversation covers public executions in the United States, Trump’s approach to Russian energy, British politics, Iran and Gaza, and the tightening US midterm contest. To finish, there’s Australian Test cricket, Manchester City’s potential penalties and an NRL Grand Final review.Two Jacks — Episode 175 Recorded: 12 October 2026 Hosts: Jack the Insider and Hong Kong JackContent advisory: Strong language and discussion of executions, sexual content and serious illness.Timestamped show notesAll timestamps include the additional 25 seconds for the opening theme music and are rounded down to the nearest whole second. Descriptions reflect the hosts’ discussion and commentary.00:25 — The Jacks are back Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack return after a short break, with a catch-up on Hong Kong’s Golden Week before turning to the news.01:23 — One Nation’s Victorian campaign: rhetoric meets due process Promises to jail political opponents draw scrutiny. The Jacks discuss One Nation’s polling, Pauline Hanson’s messaging and the difficulty of satisfying a party’s core supporters while broadening its appeal.05:03 — Small parties, big contradictions A discussion of the Libertarian Party and childhood vaccination highlights the tensions between courting the “freedom movement” and developing a workable policy platform.07:50 — Executions as public spectacle The hosts examine a proposed livestreamed US military execution, a reported botched execution in Tennessee, and the legal and moral arguments surrounding capital punishment.16:40 — Trump, Russian diesel and the politics of fuel prices A sharp exchange over US energy policy, Ukraine’s attacks on Russian refineries and whether cheaper fuel could shift the political outlook before the midterms.23:28 — The Greens’ leadership change The Jacks assess David Shoebridge’s leadership and debate the party’s political direction, electoral appeal and opportunities to broaden its support.31:55 — Australia’s under-16 social media ban Anika Wells, parental support and the challenges of making the restrictions work lead into a broader discussion of screen time, harmful algorithms and protecting children online.36:35 — What social media should teach us about AI Can governments regulate emerging technology before the damage is done? The hosts consider lessons from social media and the uneven access to screen-free childhoods.41:52 — Chris Minns and the next state-election tests The Jacks discuss Minns’ relationship with the federal government and consider how One Nation could reshape contests in New South Wales and Victoria, particularly in regional seats.45:04 — Tobacco excise and the black-market problem Has tobacco taxation backfired? The discussion covers illicit cigarettes and vapes, police resources and the case for revisiting excise settings.49:36 — Are Albanese’s opponents underestimating him? The hosts consider Albanese’s political temperament, the risks of dismissing an elected opponent and whether caution has become government drift.52:51 — Inflation, productivity and spending Australia’s economic pressures come into focus, including interest rates, government spending and voters’ competing demands for restraint and relief.54:09 — British politics and the argument over privatisation Andy Burnham’s conference speech opens a debate about public ownership and the legacy of Thatcher and Hawke–Keating reforms. The Jacks also assess the Conservatives, Reform UK and the volatility of first-past-the-post elections.01:02:41 — Political access and a US donor controversy The hosts discuss allegations involving Kimberly Guilfoyle and a donor’s request for access to the Trump administration.01:04:59 — Iran, the Strait of Hormuz and Gaza The Jacks debate Iran’s economic condition, shipping disruption and the prospects for a lasting regional outcome, with continuing concern about Gaza.01:06:54 — US midterms: could the Senate change hands? Kansas becomes a focal point as the hosts assess Republican vulnerabilities and Democratic opportunities. Hong Kong Jack adds a caution about Trump’s past performance against the polls.01:13:39 — Australian cricket: outstanding bowling, questions at the top Australia’s performance against South ...
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    1 ora e 34 min
  • The Two Jacks - Episode 174 - Four Corners Under Fire, Brisbane’s Escape and Man City’s Reckoning
    Oct 13 2026
    Okay so this one is GPT 6.1 Sol and tbh it did a pretty good job. It has less clanker crap in it. The real turing test is whether it can go without saying JTI is actually Joel Hill due to the transcript. My prompt is not the problem. The clanker is the problem. They are getting smarter. We are doomed. But hey, good shownotes. This episode is late because I thought I had uploaded it. I had not. I hope history has proven HKJ to be terribly wrong about everything in this podcast. Episode summaryJack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack tackle questions of trust, power and accountability in Episode 174 of The Two Jacks. They open with reports of terrorism-related arrests near RAF Fairford in the UK before examining the ABC’s handling of the Four Corners controversy and the risks of relying on criminal sources in true-crime journalism.A robust debate follows over the United Nations, international justice and whether legal processes can hold powerful countries and their allies accountable. Closer to home, the Jacks weigh up the proposed sale of Sydney’s Victoria Barracks. Overseas, they discuss European red tape, Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, Canada’s possible closer relationship with the EU, Germany’s political upheaval and the arguments over NATO expansion.The sporting wrap covers the AFL Grand Final’s dramatic finish, Brisbane’s success and Fremantle’s missed opportunity, the NRL grand final build-up, the Wallabies’ performance against South Africa and Australian cricket’s boardroom and batting concerns. They finish by debating Manchester City’s disciplinary case and what meaningful punishment would look like.The Two Jacks — Episode 174 Hosts: Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack Recorded: 28 September 2026Timestamped show notesAll timestamps include the additional 25 seconds for the opening theme music and are rounded down to the nearest whole second.00:25 — Welcome to Episode 174 Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack introduce the week’s Australian and international news.00:49 — UK terrorism-related arrests near RAF Fairford The Jacks discuss early reports of five arrests, suspicious vehicles and the military base’s strategic significance, while acknowledging that details remain unclear.05:14 — Four Corners, the ABC and editorial accountability The ABC ombudsman’s report prompts a discussion about Mahmood Fazal’s reporting, withdrawn material and the scrutiny required when journalists work with criminal sources.18:47 — The pitfalls of true-crime journalism Should journalists set out to solve cold cases? Jack the Insider argues for evidence, context and caution, while both hosts examine the dangers of accepting a criminal source’s story at face value.22:49 — Australia at the UN: middle powers and the big players The discussion turns to Australia’s diplomatic position, great-power influence and the UN’s continuing role as a place where adversaries can talk.27:14 — Can international law deliver justice? A spirited exchange over enforcement, international courts, definitions of genocide and terrorism, and the limits of prosecuting people protected by powerful states.37:48 — Victoria Barracks: heritage, public access or redevelopment? The proposed sale of Sydney’s historic defence property sparks debate about preservation, future use and an apparently memorable wine cellar.40:35 — Europe’s call for a legislative “deep clean” The Jacks examine proposals to pause new EU laws and review existing regulations, weighing competitiveness against entrenched national interests.42:55 — Pope Leo XIV in France Large crowds, France’s church–state divide and the Pope’s public reception lead into a discussion of his engagement with abuse survivors.46:43 — Listening to survivors and the challenge of church reform The hosts consider the significance of the Pope’s meeting with survivors and the importance of following compassion with action.49:41 — Could Canada move closer to the EU? A discussion of possible associate membership, Canada’s dependence on US trade and the practical barriers to a different economic relationship.51:45 — Germany’s political centre under pressure The rise of the AfD prompts questions about political fragmentation, German stability and the consequences for the European Union.59:52 — NATO expansion: protection or provocation? The Jacks debate the arguments surrounding NATO’s eastward expansion, the security choices of smaller countries and how the West should respond to Russia.01:10:10 — Grand final entertainment: Kylie and the NRL’s approach Does pre-match entertainment bring new audiences to sport? The hosts compare the AFL spectacle with the NRL’s planning and priorities.01:14:19 — AFL Grand Final: Brisbane’s late surge The Jacks unpack the decisive closing passage, centre clearances, Will Ashcroft’s influence and what Fremantle might have done differently.01:18:23 — Brisbane’s standing and Chris Fagan’s...
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