In this episode we’re joined by Major General Nick Cowley OBE General Officer Commanding Army Individual Training Command, Director Army Leadership and Commandant Royal Military Academy Sandhurst.

He draws on his experiences to emphasise the principle of “Serve to Lead” and highlights the inherent contradictions of leadership, as well as the importance of creating the right culture from the beginning - living values every day and doing the small things right. Culture is shaped by individuals, and actions count for more than words. He highlights how both positive or negative actions and behaviours can be contagious, and that we need to take personal responsibility for the environments we create and take part in.

In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Sir Gareth Southgate, a renowned figure in English football and a symbol of leadership both on and off the pitch. Gareth is best known for his leadership as manager of the England men’s national football team from 2016 to 2024. Under his guidance, the team reached the semi-finals of the 2018 FIFA World Cup, the quarter-finals of the 2022 World Cup, and the finals of UEFA’s European Championships in 2020 and 2024. His leadership was marked by his ability to reconnect the team with its fans, instil a sense of pride in representing England, and foster a culture of integrity and respect.

Before transitioning to management, Gareth had a distinguished playing career, making over 500 league appearances for clubs like Crystal Palace, Aston Villa, and Middlesbrough. He captained both Aston Villa and Middlesbrough, leading them to League Cup wins and a UEFA Cup final. His leadership as a player was rooted in the values of discipline, hard work, and mutual respect for all members of the team.

Gareth’s managerial journey began at Middlesbrough before he took charge of the England Under-21s, ultimately stepping into the senior England manager role. He reflects on his early experiences and the leadership lessons learned from those around him, including his youth coach at Crystal Palace, who instilled the importance of discipline and challenge. Gareth also highlights the impact of his time at Aston Villa, where he learned valuable leadership lessons from senior players, who demonstrated generosity and selflessness despite being in competition for a starting role.

Throughout the podcast, Gareth talks about the importance of leadership values such as integrity, respect, and treating everyone equally, regardless of their role in the team. He believes in the power of empathy and emotional intelligence, emphasising that being a good leader is not just about making decisions but about understanding the needs and perspectives of those you lead. Gareth also shares how he learned to delegate more effectively as he progressed in his leadership career, recognising that trust in others is essential for a successful team dynamic.

He also reflects on the generational challenges facing young leaders today, particularly in terms of social skills like making eye contact and saying good morning. Gareth stresses the importance of empathy and creating an environment where people feel psychologically safe enough to speak up and offer their views. He acknowledges that leadership is an ongoing journey of growth and learning, always striving to improve and adapt to new challenges.

In addition to his football career, Gareth is passionate about youth development and resilience. He’s an ambassador for the Prince’s Trust and a patron of Help for Heroes, working to support young people and veterans. He has also written books, including We Only Do Positive for youth football and Anything is Possible, a motivational guide for young people.

Gareth’s new book, Dear England: Lessons in Leadership, is set to delve deeper into his leadership journey and the lessons he’s learned from his time managing England. This book promises to provide insight into his approach to leadership, the challenges he faced, and how he navigated them to build a winning team. Gareth hopes to inspire readers by sharing the leadership principles that have guided him throughout his career, aiming to encourage the next generation of leaders to trust themselves, embrace failure, and always strive for improvement.

In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Reverend Michael Parker, the Chaplain General of the British Army. Reverend Parker has been dedicated to military chaplaincy for over 25 years, offering unwavering spiritual and pastoral support to soldiers. As Chaplain General, he plays a pivotal role in overseeing the spiritual and moral guidance of the Army, ensuring the well being of its personnel in both everyday and high pressure situations.

Reverend Parker’s leadership philosophy is deeply rooted in the concept of servant leadership. He believes in leading through service, putting others’ needs first and gaining recognition and trust through that commitment. His approach to leadership began in civilian ministry and evolved through his time in the military, where he embraced the Army’s leadership values while maintaining a strong faith based approach to supporting others.

Throughout his career, Reverend Parker has been at the forefront of advocating for pastoral care, spiritual support, and moral guidance within the military. His leadership style is reflective, taking the time to think critically about how he leads and how others perceive him. He understands that effective leadership is about more than command; it’s about ensuring those under your leadership are morally and emotionally supported.

Reverend Parker has also worked in high stakes environments, including conflict zones, where he’s seen firsthand how soldiers face immense ethical and moral challenges. His role as Chaplain General has been essential in helping individuals navigate these challenges, offering a listening ear and providing moral support during difficult times.

He is passionate about diversity within the Army’s chaplaincy, working to ensure that the chaplaincy reflects the broad range of faiths and beliefs present within the Army. Reverend Parker’s leadership is shaped by his belief that the chaplaincy’s purpose is to care for the Army’s people, advocating for those who feel they don't have a voice and challenging behaviors that go against the Army’s values.

We’re excited to hear from Reverend Parker as he shares his insights on leadership, the evolving role of chaplains, and how they support soldiers in the face of both everyday challenges and extraordinary pressures.