This week, Candice and Malessa sit down live at The Real Deal Forum in New York City with Steve Kliegerman, President of Brown Harris Stevens Development Marketing. Steve shares how he built one of New York's most prominent development sales and marketing platforms, what it really takes to position and sell out a new development in a competitive market, and how he's leveraged his industry access and insight to invest in real estate himself. He also breaks down why brokerage doesn't have to be just transactional income, and when the right moment is to shift from earning commissions to owning assets.

Filmed as part of the Mastery of Real Estate (MORE) Network, powered by Brown Harris Stevens.

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Guest:

Steve Kliegerman

Hosts:

Candice Milano | @candicemilano

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/candice-milano

Malessa Rambarran | @malessa_innyc

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/malessa-rambarran

Sponsor:

Brian Scott Cohen of Guaranteed Rate, providing the best mortgage experience possible. | https://www.grarate.com/

Brown Harris Stevens is one of the largest privately owned real estate brokerages in the country, with more than 40 offices across four states: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Florida.

https://bhsusa.com/

This week, Candice and Malessa sit down with Cathey Kuo, a commercial real estate broker, investor, and principal at Elite Commercial Real Estate in Las Vegas. Cathey shares how she got her start analyzing deals alongside her mother in high school, what it takes to transition from residential into commercial investing, and how she evaluates risk and opportunity in a market still navigating high office vacancy rates and shifting demand post-COVID. She also breaks down the power of 1031 exchanges as a tool for repositioning portfolios and preserving generational wealth through tax-efficient strategy.

Plus, the hosts explore the lock-in effect and how golden-era mortgage rates are keeping the housing market frozen. With a large share of homeowners holding sub-4 percent mortgages, sellers aren't listing, inventory is tight, and first-time buyers are running out of room. They dig into what it might take to finally break the gridlock.

Filmed as part of the Mastery of Real Estate (MORE) Network, powered by Brown Harris Stevens.

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Guest:

Cathey Kuo

Hosts:

Candice Milano | @candicemilano

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/candice-milano

Malessa Rambarran | @malessa_innyc

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/malessa-rambarran

Sponsor:

Brian Scott Cohen of Guaranteed Rate, providing the best mortgage experience possible. | https://www.grarate.com/

Brown Harris Stevens is one of the largest privately owned real estate brokerages in the country, with more than 40 offices across four states: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Florida.

https://bhsusa.com/

This week, Candice and Malessa sit down with Jude Bernard, a NYC-based real estate investor, broker, and general contractor who built a significant portfolio of brownstones and rental properties across Brooklyn and Harlem. Jude shares how combining construction, brokerage, and investing gives him control over the full lifecycle of a deal, the risks and realities of operating short-term rentals in one of the most regulated cities in the country, and how value-add strategy has been central to growing his portfolio. He also opens up about the mission behind The Brooklyn Bank, his financial literacy and real estate education platform focused on helping underserved communities close the racial wealth gap through property ownership.

Plus, the hosts unpack one of the biggest forces keeping housing inventory frozen: the lock-in effect. With nearly 60 percent of American homeowners holding mortgage rates under 4 percent, sellers aren't selling — and the ripple effects are pricing out first-time buyers and stalling the market. They explore what it would take to break the gridlock.

Filmed as part of the Mastery of Real Estate (MORE) Network, powered by Brown Harris Stevens.

Guest:

Jude Bernard

Sponsor:

Brian Scott Cohen of Guaranteed Rate, providing the best mortgage experience possible. | https://www.grarate.com/

Hosts:

Candice Milano | @candicemilano

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/candice-milano

Malessa Rambarran | @malessa_innyc

https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/malessa-rambarran

Subscribe the The Build Up:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-build-up/id1716615268

Brown Harris Stevens is one of the largest privately owned real estate brokerages in the country, with more than 40 offices across four states: New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Florida.

https://bhsusa.com/