Kimberly Fischer sits down with Chad for a powerful conversation about resilience, ownership, and what it really takes to build something from the ground up.

From years in the restaurant and catering industry to forging her own path, Kimberly shares the hard truth behind the work most people never see. She talks about years of catering experience, hard lessons learned through failure, and the moments that forced her to decide whether she would stay stuck or move forward.

Her story includes deep adversity, from homelessness and foster care to rebuilding her life with a mindset rooted in responsibility and action. For Kimberly, struggle did not break her, it built her grit.

In this episode, she unpacks how she reframes debt as a tool, why perspective shapes everything, and how people often borrow from tomorrow just to get through today. Her message is direct. You are not powerless in your circumstances. You can choose to take your life back.

This is a conversation about rising after being knocked down, seeing opportunity where others see limits, and learning to turn adversity into strength.

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Logan sits down with Shane for a real conversation around passive income, investing, and what it actually takes to build wealth over time.

They talk through the idea of “passive” investing and why it’s not always as hands-off as people expect. Shane shares his experience with real estate, including Airbnb, and how different income streams have played a role in his journey as a business owner.

This episode also leans into the importance of staying engaged, asking questions, and learning from both success stories and mistakes. There’s a lot of noise around investing, but one thing is clear in this conversation: no one has all the answers, and there’s always something to learn.

If you’ve been thinking about getting into investing or building additional income streams, this is a grounded, honest look at what that can actually look like.

In today’s episode, Chad and Logan talk about why investing and debt decisions aren’t really about the math, they’re about behavior. On paper, everything can look simple, but in real life it gets messy fast, especially when debt is involved.

They walk through what happens when the numbers say one thing but your situation says another. When you’re carrying debt you can’t comfortably afford, it adds pressure, limits your flexibility, and makes every dip in the market feel that much heavier. Debt has a way of acting like an accelerant. When things are going well, it might feel manageable, but when things get off track, it can quickly put you in a tough spot, especially if your investments are also uncertain.

This conversation really highlights the tension between investing and paying off debt, and why staying stuck in the middle often creates more stress than clarity. They also talk about the importance of building in margin, not just financially but mentally, because the goal isn’t to follow the perfect strategy, it’s to build something that actually works in real life.

If you’ve ever felt like the math should be working but somehow isn’t, this episode will give you a much clearer way to think about it.