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The Best Friend Project

The Best Friend Project

Di: Rachel Joy Swardson
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When her best friendship ended, Rachel Joy Swardson went to the bathroom. Hundreds of them. She taped up postcards with a QR code in bathroom stalls, asking the question she was too hurt and humiliated to verbalize, "How do you do friendship?" Thousands of women answered, and their stories changed and healed her. So she brought them forward, here for you on The Best Friend Project podcast.

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  • Bonus 18: On The Phone | Cami Talbot
    Oct 24 2026

    Rachel and Cami revisit a conversation about adult friendship, vulnerability, and the unexpected ways meaningful connections enter our lives. They talk about the courage it takes to approach someone new, why meeting in real life still matters, and how letting go of jealousy and comparison can help us appreciate the beauty in ourselves and others.


    Connect with Cami:

    Website (https://www.camianntalbot.com/)

    Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/camianntalbot)

    Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/cami.talbot/)


    Learn more about The Best Friend Project:

    https://thebestfriendproject.co

    Discover your Friendship Archetype:
    Take the Friendship Survey:
    https://thebestfriendproject.co/signup

    Stay in touch:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebest_friendproject/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheBestFriendProject

    Questions? Hello@TheBFProject.com

    Support the show

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    6 min
  • Ep 19: Losing Your Tribe, Finding Beauty & Making New Friends | Cami Ann Talbot
    Oct 20 2026

    Why is it so hard to make friends as an adult—aren’t we supposed to know who we are by now?

    When professional makeup artist Cami Talbot left the Mormon church at 14, she lost more than her religion—she lost her childhood tribe. Years later, an unexpected encounter with a stranger would challenge everything we assume about how adults make new friends.

    But this conversation starts somewhere even more personal—the face in the mirror. Your face. After 15 years working as a makeup artist, Cami has noticed that what women dislike about their appearance sometimes has very little to do with beauty, and more to do with the features—and stories—we inherit. If your mom was always critical of you and you have her same eyes, do you see yourself or her when you look in the mirror? If your father was distant but you have his nose, is it really your nose you don't like—or the absent feeling it reminds you of?

    Self-esteem, confidence and even the grace we give ourselves are deeply connected to how we think we look. And some of that may be tied to the relationships we had with our parents.

    How much of who we think we are actually belongs to us?

    This conversation explores what happens when we begin questioning the identities we inherited—from our parents, our religion and our past—and how changing the way we see ourselves can change the friendships we lose, the ones we keep, and the new ones we're brave enough to make.


    Connect with Cami:

    Website (https://www.camianntalbot.com/)

    Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/camianntalbot)

    Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/cami.talbot/)


    Learn more about The Best Friend Project:

    https://thebestfriendproject.co

    Discover your Friendship Archetype:
    Take the Friendship Survey:
    https://thebestfriendproject.co/signup

    Stay in touch:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebest_friendproject/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheBestFriendProject

    Questions? Hello@TheBFProject.com

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Cold Open

    01:20 – Why Even the Most Beautiful People Struggle to Feel Enough

    07:29 – Why We Need to Be Our Own Best Friend First

    11:22 – The People Who Miss Someone but Won’t Make the First Move

    17:29 – What If Another Woman’s Beauty Didn’t Threaten Your Own?

    23:08 – Leaving the Mormon Church at 14 and Finding Her Own Way

    33:59 – The Note That Started a Nine-Year Friendship

    41:30 – Are We Too Quick to Walk Away?

    45:39 – The One Thing Women Need Most From Their Friendships

    50:01 – What If We Started Going to Therapy With Our Friends?

    50:18 – The One Conversation You Might Need to Have Before It’s Too Late


    Coming Next Week:

    Rachel goes solo for Episode 20 of The Best Friend Project, reflecting on what she’s learned and why social media relationship experts may be doing more harm than good.

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    56 min
  • Bonus 18: On The Phone | Beth Pacunas
    Oct 17 2026

    Getting ghosted by a friend makes you the victim. Until you hear yourself tell the story out loud. After Beth’s episode aired, I called her back. I wanted to know what it was like to hear her friendship breakup played back. Her answer surprised both of us.

    We get into in this bonus content to explore why trying not to be a bother can push people away. Why receiving love can feel harder than giving it. And why two people who shared weddings, babies and decades never once called each other “best.”

    I also share the book that changed how I see my mom, and the patterns we inherit in who we let close.

    If you’ve lost a friend and still don’t know why, start here.

    Mentioned: It Didn’t Start with You by Mark Wolynn

    Take the Friendship Survey: thebestfriendproject.co

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    16 min
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