Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Melissa Wallentine episode "I Come From an Extraordinary Dysfunctional Family" first.

Noticing what others don't see is a skill that not everyone has. Dude does it well, I'm still working on it, especially at cocktail parties. We go into depth what it's like for us to attend both mixers and banquets. In one setting, I'm shy, withdrawn, uncomfortable, and can't wait to leave. In the other, I shine and get everyone around me laughing.

I also share how Dude still has to clean up after me like a toddler.

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Melissa Wallentine's parents were each married five times. Her dad moved the family 37 times in 11 years. This upbringing is how Melissa developed a superpower of noticing when others are in need, whether it's as a professor, a neighbor, Stake Relief Society president, or a mother. By the time others discover someone needs help, Melissa is already there.

Heather and Melissa talk about how Mary at the wedding in Cana, who saw the wine running out before the wedding planner did, might have also drawn upon her childhood experiences to notice needs before others did.

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Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Diana Lacey episode first.

Two doctors told me I wasn't pregnant. I believed them instead of my own body.

That came up after talking with Diana about the fifth baby she nearly delivered at home — and the sister who recognized labor faster than she did. It got Dude and me talking about how often we ignore the truth right in front of us, or tell the truth and have no one believe us anyway.

We also talk about how Dude caught his boss embezzling.

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production. Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast.

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Get your free Bible translation guide: times-of-faith.kit.com/free-bible-guide
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Original Music by Johnathan B. Pack