What does it look like when compassion becomes the driving force in an industry built on conflict? Chris sits down with Carolyn Devries, founder of New Way Lawyers, Australia’s first not-for-profit family law firm. Carolyn shares the very real story of walking away from the traditional legal pathway to build a practice that puts people at the centre of every decision.

Carolyn talks about the frustrations that pushed her out of private practice, the early days of building a values driven firm, and the emotional weight of supporting families through separation, divorce and domestic violence. She and Chris explore how she learned to balance heart and commercial clarity, how her team stays grounded while doing difficult work, and why culture matters more than any bonus structure.

This is an intimate and uplifting conversation about purpose, courage and choosing the harder road for the right reasons. If you want to create meaningful change in your own field or simply hear what it sounds like when someone builds a business that genuinely aligns with who they are, Carolyn’s story will stay with you.

Connect with New Way Lawyers

If you or someone you know needs support during separation, divorce or domestic violence, New Way Lawyers offers free and accessible help alongside their legal services.

Website: www.newwaylawyers.com
Learn more about their approach, book an initial consultation or explore their resources.

Lunch With A Lawyer (Free Service):
A private and anonymous Facebook community where you can ask family law questions at no cost and receive guidance from a qualified lawyer every weekday between 12 and 1pm.
Search Lunch With A Lawyer on Facebook to join.

Domestic Violence and Family Law Support:
New Way Lawyers provides free initial consultations through partner organisations and their private domestic violence fund. Visit their website for more details on accessing this service.

In the latest instalment of The Anti-Failure Podcast, Chris sits down with Rob Martin, Founder of MCommercial, for an honest conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and redefining success. With nearly two decades of experience in the building and commercial property sectors, Rob shares his journey from working in large corporate environments to launching his own people-first commercial property buyer’s agency.

Rob opens up about navigating the challenges of starting a business, the lessons learned from personal and professional failures, and how prioritising relationships and integrity helped him overcome setbacks. He discusses the pivotal moments that inspired him to break away from the traditional, sales-driven approach to real estate, and instead create a brand built on transparency, honesty, and genuine purpose.

Whether you're a small business owner, aspiring entrepreneur, or anyone striving to strike a balance between ambition and wellbeing, Rob’s story is a candid look at how to turn setbacks into opportunities for growth. Tune in to hear how failure, in the right context, can be the foundation for personal transformation and a more fulfilling kind of success.

Want to hear more from Rob or learn more about investing in commercial property?
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LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-martin-mcommercial/

Valentina Coin - aka the Digital Transformation Fairy Godmother - joins Chris on the Anti-Failure Podcast to unpack how small businesses can turn tech chaos into scalable, sustainable growth. From tackling failed software launches to aligning people, processes, and technology, Val shares why embracing failure is a gamechanger for business (and personal) transformation. If you want practical strategies to turn process and technology headaches into business wins, this conversation is your blueprint! Check it out now and start building without the chaos.