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The Agartha_One Podcast

Di: Jeremy Dela Rosa & Nico Shi
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This podcast is for all the beautiful misfits who don't fit in the old world because they're building new ones. We talk with the people living and building the Solarpunk future across four domains: ethical technology, planetary regeneration, loving community, and spiritual growth. Hosted by Jeremy Dela Rosa and Nico Shi.Agartha LLC Scienze sociali Spiritualità
  • #05 Designing New Regenerative Systems with Monty Merlin
    Sep 30 2026

    What if a logging license could become a license to regenerate?

    Monty Merlin grew up in the English countryside. His mother co-wrote The Green Consumer Guide, and he was a teenage hacker who nearly got kicked out of school for breaking into its system. That mix of environmentalism and technology led him to regenerative finance at university in Bristol, and he has stayed in the space for more than five years with ReFi DAO.

    We recorded this on his last morning at the Agartha residency in Fools Valley, Portugal, in a valley full of wind turbines, we sat down talk about designing new regenerative systems and what it takes to rebuild the economy from the ground up. We got into why finance may be humanity's most powerful coordination tool, and why paper straws won't fix a system built on endless growth.

    Monty explains bioregional financing, where communities organize around watersheds and soils instead of national borders, with examples like the Indigenous-led Amazon Sacred Headwaters Alliance, and the network layer that isolated eco-villages still lack. He talks about his new work with Localism Labs and the handful of Web3 projects he thinks are actually delivering, like Regen Network and EthicHub. The centerpiece is Kwaxala, which worked with the Canadian government on a new kind of forest license in British Columbia. The license protects the forest as an asset on the balance sheet, and the credits it earns go first to the Indigenous communities who look after the land.

    The conversation ends with how anyone can start living a little more Solarpunk, a reading list, and Monty's dream campus, where a permaculture food forest sits next to a robotics lab.

    Host: Nico · Guest: Monty Merlin

    References Mentioned:
    - Kwaxala, an indigenous nature regeneration network
    - The Green Consumer Guide by Julia Hailes
    - Bioregional Financing Facilities by Samantha Power and Leon Seefeld
    - John Fullerton's principles of regenerative economics
    - Doughnut Economics
    - Sacred Economics and The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible by Charles Eisenstein
    - The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
    - Walkaway by Cory Doctorow
    - Gelephu Mindfulness City, Bhutan

    SHOWNOTES
    00:00 — Last day at the Agartha residency in Fools Valley
    01:08 — Growing up with The Green Consumer Guide
    02:45 — Teenage hacker, economics, and finding ReFi in Bristol
    04:08 — Finance as a coordination tool, and why paper straws won't cut it
    05:15 — Where Web3 fits, and bridging to traditional finance
    07:47 — Who's getting it right? Bioregional financing facilities
    11:32 — Eco-villages and the missing network layer
    12:28 — Localism Labs: local resilience in a world of shocks
    15:27 — Web3's YOLO moves, and a more critical lens
    17:35 — Kwaxala and the right to regenerate
    22:22 — Five years in ReFi, and breaking out of the bubble
    24:52 — How to join the Solarpunk movement
    27:00 — Start small: composting, community gardens, visiting
    28:45 — The Solarpunk reading list
    30:25 — Magic wand: a food forest meets a robotics lab
    31:58 — Bhutan's mindfulness city
    32:42 — Thanks and goodbyes

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    33 min
  • #04 — Nomads, Villages & The Personal Stack | Daniel Thompson, Noma Collective | Minimum Viable Society
    Sep 8 2026

    Daniel Thompson spent his twenties throwing 60,000-person music festivals and his thirties trying to answer a harder question: where do you actually live? He's the co-founder and CEO of Noma Collective, which ran 45 pop-up villages across 32 countries in 2025, and the founder of Minimum Viable Society, a one-year experiment to bridge the gap between pop-up villages and permanent cities. In our fourth episode he sits down with Nico and Jeremy to talk about why there is no perfect place, only a stack of them, why like-minded people alone tend to build a monoculture instead of a society, and what he learned losing an entire project in Belize three months before COVID.

    We get into the four stages of the nomad journey and where "multi-local" comes from, why Prospera's regulatory sandbox let him take 15 families and 35 kids to Roatán, the ten buckets of people a functioning society needs, temporary infrastructure and desire pathways as a way to build places that don't fight their residents, subscription economics at $400 a month and land that vests over three years, plus the cold start problem and the party-starter theory of how any of it gets off the ground.

    Hosts: Nico and Jeremy · Guest: Daniel Thompson

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  • The Woman Who Named Open Source
    Aug 25 2026
    Episode 03 — Coining a Movement, Molecular Machines, and Existential Hope — Christine PetersonFor our third episode we sat down with Christine Peterson, co-founder and former president of Foresight Institute. She helped bring molecular nanotechnology into the world as a serious field, co-authored Unbounding the Future: The Nanotechnology Revolution and Leaping the Abyss: Putting Group Genius to Work, and advises MIRI, the Global Healthspan Policy Institute, and the National Space Society.She also coined the term open source software.Forty years of watching frontier technology arrive, up close, from inside the room. We talked about naming things, molecular machines, why dystopia might be a public health problem, and what she’d tell a young builder today.For those who prefer their podcasts on other platforms, we’re there too!Youtube · X (Twitter) · Apple · Spotify[episode links to add]The word that had to changeBefore “open source” there was “free software” — accurate, principled, and a catastrophe in English. As software moved from a movement to an industry, non-programmer customers heard free, assumed zero dollars, then got an invoice for support.In Spanish, Spanish has different words for free as in price and free as in freedom. So in Spanish, this problem doesn’t even come up. But in English it was a disaster. So it’s like a marketing disaster.Christine — a non-programmer herself — could see the trap and also see she had no standing in that community to fix it. So she handed the new term to a programmer friend, who did something quietly genius: he didn’t propose a rename, he just started using it. Others picked it up within days.This is a memetic thing. It just took off like a rocket. That’s how you know when you’ve got a good meme, because it just goes up, zoop, really fast. You don’t spend any money.Her lesson for builders is that naming isn’t the thing you do after the real work. It is part of the work: “It’s your job, not just to build great new technologies, but to figure out how to communicate their benefits. Because without that, the thing is dead in the water.”Two teenagers and a very big ideaThe Foresight origin story starts in the late ’70s with an MIT biochem undergrad who’d discovered she was terrible in the lab, and a friend named Eric Drexler reading her textbooks. Journals were filling up with nature’s molecular machine systems — the ribosome and its relatives, real machinery moving atoms around to make life happen. Eric came from aero-astro, from machines made of metal.He put the two together: if machines can work at that scale, why do they have to be soft and floating in water? Why not build stiff ones, out of carbon, designed by us? And then the consequences unspool — manufacturing, computation, environmental cleanup at the molecular level, repair of the human body at the molecular level.If you come from an environmental background, and if you care about the Earth, this is super inspiring. It’s like, we could clean up the Earth. We could heal the Earth.Marvin Minsky and Arthur Kantrowitz took them seriously. A Nobel Prize-winning physicist told Eric it was physically impossible — and a few years later the scanning tunneling microscope proved you can manipulate individual atoms with that precision.Just because somebody is famous, and even if they have a Nobel Prize in the correct field, that is not necessarily the case.This was pre-internet, so they wrote a book — Engines of Creation — and printed an organization name and a PO box in the back before they’d even incorporated. People mailed in letters. Then a paper newsletter, then the first conference in 1989. This is Foresight’s 40th anniversary year.Builders are gonna buildWe asked Christine to distill Foresight’s thesis. Her answer is the most concise theory of change we’ve heard in a while, and it isn’t the one most people reach for:The way you do that most effectively is not through passing laws and regulations or protesting in the streets. The best way to do it is to find the cutting edge builders in the space, try to do some screening on ethics, and then facilitate their work toward positive goals.Because you can’t stop the building:Innovators and builders, they’re gonna innovate and build. It’s like artists. Artists are gonna make art… Just like an elephant. An elephant’s gonna do elephant things.If you don’t fund them toward something regenerative, someone else funds them toward something offensive, and that’s what gets built.Read hard science fiction, even when it’s badIf you want to think in decades, Christine’s advice is to borrow other people’s imaginations. Hard science fiction — scientifically conservative, technologically ambitious — is her forecasting tool of choice, and she’s unsentimental about the prose. You’re not there for the characters. You’re there for the concepts. (For software futures, she ...
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