In this episode, Emilie and Ashlie sit down with Casey McFarland of Reliq Travel to give a deep dive into an upcoming, once-in-a-lifetime guided tour to Greece happening April 7–16, 2027.

We’re keeping this group small and intimate, and spots are very limited! Currently, we only have room for two couples and one solo female traveler (to room with a fantastic community member). Listen in as Casey walks through the sacred history, myth, and geography of this incredible itinerary.

• Athens: Uncovering ancient religious origins, Greek mythology, and the divine feminine.
• Delphi: Connecting with deep history and grounding spirituality in an epic mountain setting.
• Meteora: Visiting active, 1,000-year-old monasteries perched atop giant granite monoliths.
• Crete: Wrapping up our journey exploring ancient Minoan civilization and stunning coastal beauty.

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• 📖 Read Melanie McFarland’s Article on Delphi’s Oracle
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☪️ Converting to Islam - yes it's possible and it's quite simple.

🧕🏼How women feel about being separated from the men at during Islamic services.

🩷 The meaning of a Hijab and the choice to wear it.

🕊️Do's and Don't for Muslim Women and Men within Islam. Can they drink Alcohol? Eat Pork? Find out in this episode with Maysa Kergaye.

✨Maysa's favorite quotes.

⭐️ Refugee needs and Maysa's support and work within their community.

♥️✨🕊️ After we finished with our planned questions we had more. Listen to our conversation after we all thought we were done. We couldn't share it all on record but it was so fascinating. We are so grateful for our new friendship with Maysa. She is truly a gem.

In this episode, Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders sit down with Michelle Peper, the voice behind @edge_of_inside, to discuss her journey from a sixth-generation Mormon upbringing to redefining her faith and spirituality after leaving the LDS Church. Michelle shares her experiences navigating a faith transition with her husband, Bob, finding a new religious home in the First Congregational United Church of Christ, and building a supportive community through social media.

Michelle also talks about her meaningful work as a crisis counselor with The Trevor Project, as well as her passions for music, soapmaking, hiking, pickleball, and, of course, spending time with her beloved dogs.

Topics Covered:

• Michelle’s six-generation LDS heritage and life in Southern Idaho

• Her and Bob’s shared faith transition and finding a new spiritual community

• The creation of her Instagram account, @edge_of_inside, and its impact

• Redefining religion, God, and meaning-making post-LDS life

• Volunteering with The Trevor Project and its personal rewards

• Finding joy in hobbies and everyday life

Resources Mentioned:

• Michelle’s Instagram: @edge_of_inside

• First Congregational United Church of Christ

• The Trevor Project

Connect With Us:

• Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast

Thank you for tuning in! Share your thoughts on this episode by tagging us and Michelle on Instagram, and let us know what resonated with you. #deconstruction

In this deeply honest and powerful episode, we sit down with Kelly Robinson—a mom of five, entrepreneur, and resilient woman whose life story challenges simple narratives about faith, family, and identity.

Kelly shares what it was like growing up in a strict, high-demand religion in the South as a biracial girl navigating racism, rigid expectations, and a culture where worthiness was tied to perfection. Raised by a mother deeply committed to the church, Kelly learned early on what it meant to follow the rules, suppress questions, and internalize shame.

As a teenager, Kelly faced an experience that would alter the course of her life—one marked by isolation, fear, and a lack of support at a moment when she needed it most. Rather than breaking her, that moment became the catalyst for her spiritual awakening and her first real experience of feeling seen, protected, and deeply valued.

In this episode, Kelly opens up about:

• Growing up biracial in predominantly white religious spaces

• Shame culture, perfectionism, and conditional love

• Separating God from organized religion

• Trauma, healing, and trusting intuition

• Parenting with agency and compassion

• Breaking generational cycles

• Building a meaningful life rooted in authenticity

Today, Kelly parents five kids as a single mom and owns her own salon in Draper, Utah. Her children are her entire world, and her story is a testament to resilience, self-trust, and choosing love over fear.

We hope to see you at our annual Women's Event on March 7, 2026. Doors open at 5:30PM and the event start at 6PM and goes until 8:30PM. It will be held at The Compass Gallery in Provo Utah.

Follow our 501(c)3 nonprofit on Instagram @thatschurchpodcast

Check out our website for Book Club, Field Trips, upcoming Events and more at thatschurch.org.

This special Season 2 finale was filmed last summer at Our Savior Lutheran Church and captures something deeply meaningful to us.

What began as an invitation from Pastor Reba to talk about faith, interfaith work, and peacebuilding quickly became a full day of connection. After inviting us to speak with the church council, the congregation welcomed us back during a summer BBQ filled with bouncy houses, incredible food, and people of all ages.

This was the first time we had ever attempted community-style interviews. We bought microphones, stepped into the unknown, and listened.

We spoke with youth, young couples raising small children, longtime members who have seen decades of change, and those who come and go but still feel at home. We talked with Pastor Reba and a member preparing to step into a lay pastor role to assist her. Across every conversation, one theme remained constant: everyone feels welcome here.

Whether people arrived as lifelong Lutherans or from entirely different faith backgrounds—or none at all—each person shared how deeply accepted and valued they feel. Two older women, standing close and gently holding each other’s hands, embodied the tenderness and belonging that lives within this community.

This episode took time to edit, but it felt like the perfect way to close Season 2.

Looking Ahead to Season 3

Season 3 includes conversations with Gerlyn Henry, David Hayward (The Naked Pastor), and many other thoughtful voices we’re excited to share.

As a growing nonprofit, we are also seeking a video editor who is interested in donating their time, gaining hands-on experience, and working with an organization focused on interfaith dialogue and peacebuilding.
📧 Interested? Email admin@thatschurch.org

Upcoming Event — March 2026

📅 March 7
📍 Compass Gallery

Becoming Sovereign

Claiming Your Story, Honoring Your Agency, and Building Our Beloved Community

Presenters:

• McArthur Krishna
• Maxine Hanks
• Amy Watkins Jensen of Women on the Stand

Each year, we host a women-centered event in March and an interfaith-focused event in the fall. This gathering centers women’s voices, personal agency, and the work of building beloved community. We would love to have you join us.

Connect With Us

📸 Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast
🌐 Website: https://thatschurch.org

We are kicking off Season Three with a powerful conversation about faith in a volatile world. Reverend Gerlyn Henry joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the ethics of ministry during times of global conflict and political tension. From the "resistance of joy" to the necessity of lamenting for Gaza and protecting the dignity of immigrants, this episode is a call to a bigger, more inclusive theology.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Faith in the Public Square: Navigating ministry and social justice in today's climate.

• The Call to Lament: Centering human dignity (Imago Dei) during the crisis in Gaza.

• Bridges, Not Barriers: How radical hospitality humanizes the immigrant and the refugee.

• Prophetic Joy: Why finding joy in turbulence is a vital form of spiritual resistance.

Connect with our Guest:

• Instagram: @Gerlynhenry

• Location: St. Jude’s in Scarborough, Ontario (through July 2026).

Annual Women’s Event: Becoming Sovereign

• Full Title: Becoming Sovereign - Claiming your story, honoring your agency & Building our Beloved Community

• Date: March 7th, 2026

• Time: 6:00 PM – 8:30 PM (Doors open at 5:30 PM)

• Tickets: Available at thatschurch.org

Book Club & Field Trips

• Book Club: March 12th | 7:00 PM | Draper, Utah.

• Easter Field Trip: Join us at St. Mary’s Episcopal Church in Provo, Utah.

• Date: Thursday, April 2nd (Evening).

Follow the journey:

• Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast

• Website: thatschurch.org

Upcoming Events & Community Gatherings

In this episode of That’s Church, we sit down with Ariel Munyer for a thoughtful conversation about faith, curiosity, and connection.

Ariel shares her experiences attending different religious spaces, navigating faith alongside LGBTQ+ loved ones, and teaching with vulnerability and creativity. She also talks about her work as a professional genealogist and how uncovering family stories can be a deeply spiritual practice—one rooted in memory, belonging, and community.

This episode explores what it means to stay connected without certainty, to lead with compassion, and to find God through people rather than perfection.

• Exploring other churches with honesty and openness

• Holding faith with nuance

• Supporting LGBTQ+ loved ones in religious spaces

• Women’s leadership in faith communities

• Genealogy as sacred storytelling

• Community as a spiritual practice

As Season 2 begins to close, this conversation feels like a bridge—honoring where we’ve been and pointing toward what’s next.

Join us for our next That’s Church event:

March 7 at 6:00 PM
Doors open at 5:30 PM
📍 The Compass Gallery
Provo, Utah

Season 3 will focus more on leaders, professional speakers, and religious thinkers whose work aligns with the heart of That’s Church.

Upcoming guests include:

• David Hayward, also known as The Naked Pastor

• Gerlyn Henry

Season 3 will be focused entirely outside of our own religion.

That’s Church is a nonprofit seeking a podcast editor interested in gaining experience and building a portfolio through meaningful work. Reach out if you’re interested.

📸 Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast
🌐 Website: thatschurch.org

Topics include:📣 UPCOMING EVENT🌿 LOOKING AHEAD TO SEASON 3🎧 CALL FOR AN EDITOR🔗 CONNECT WITH US

Guests:

• Ashli Carnicelli – Writer, singer, and passionate believer in the Divine Feminine

• Trina Caudle – Editor, historian, scoutmaster, and macro-photographer

• McArthur Krishna – Author, artist, and advocate for spiritual wholeness

Topics Covered:

• Ashli’s Catholic upbringing and connection to Mary, the mother of Jesus

• McArthur’s years in India and insights into Hindu goddesses and the Divine Feminine

• Trina’s interfaith experience as a scoutmaster in Methodist and Presbyterian spaces

• Tangible stories of connection with Heavenly Mother

• How Mother in Heaven: A Gospel Topics Essay Study Guide came to life

• Advice for those just beginning to explore their relationship with Heavenly Mother

Resources Mentioned:

• 📘 Mother in Heaven: A Gospel Topics Essay Study Guide – Order on Amazon

• 📝 Gospel Topics Essay: Mother in Heaven – Read it here

Follow Us:

📸 Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast

🎧 Listen to Meagan’s podcast Beyond the Shadow of Doubt wherever you get your podcasts

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