In this episode of The Business at the Speed of AI, Jeremy Victor is joined by longtime technologist and systems builder Jonah Harris for the debut of Tech TALX — a recurring segment focused on how technology actually gets built.

This is not an AI hype conversation.

Together, Jeremy and Jonah unpack:

• Why the “Apple vs OpenAI” narrative misses the point
• The difference between Pathfinders and Mechanics in modern technology
• Why AI models don’t win — systems, economics, and integration do
• How Google quietly remains one of the most underestimated players in AI
• The shift from AI novelty to AI infrastructure
• Why AI is no longer optional — for businesses or individuals
• What leaders misunderstood about AI-driven workforce change in 2025
• Why the real competitive advantage comes from deep integration, not surface-level tools

Jeremy brings the Pathfinder lens—vision, systems thinking, and human outcomes. Jonah brings the Mechanic perspective—engineering reality, scale, and execution.

This episode is for:

• Business leaders navigating AI adoption
• Operators, product leaders, and technologists
• Anyone trying to understand where AI is actually heading—not where headlines say it is

AI won’t replace humans.

But humans who understand systems will replace those who don’t.

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