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Did you know that the original McDonald's is NOT where McDonald's says it is?

Take a Route 66 road trip to San Bernardino and explore the hidden history of the original McDonald’s location. Scott and Jenn trace the story behind this landmark, share what makes it a memorable stop for history travel, and tell you the darker side of McDonald's that most people don't know.

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Did you know you can visit the town that inspired Radiator Springs?

Plan a Route 66 road trip to Seligman, Arizona, where historic travel meets the hidden history behind the town that inspired Pixar’s Cars. Scott and Jenn explore the town’s connection to the Mother Road, share what travelers can see today, and offer a lively stop to add to your next Arizona itinerary.

📍 Visit Seligman

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Explore John Wesley Powell's legendary 1869 river expedition through the Grand Canyon—the daring exploration that mapped the unmapped and redefined American adventure.

Scott and Jenn share the hidden history visitors miss, take you inside Powell's groundbreaking scientific journey, and reveal why this historic travel destination tells a story far deeper than scenic views.

Perfect for your next Western road trip.

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The Art of Adventure Podcast

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We built History or Drive — a simple map with almost 1,400 historic sites tied to videos and podcasts so you stop driving past the good stuff. You open it in any browser, tap a pin, and get one-click directions.

But why? How is there 1,400 locations with videos at almost all of them? A video at EVERY location?

Join us as we explain how it all happened.

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

⭐ Enjoying the journey? Leave us a quick review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to help other history and travel lovers find the show!

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How did Los Alamos become the site where Manhattan Project scientists changed the course of WWII...and the world??

In this episode, a historian explains how this secret city became one of America's most important military history destinations—and why you should add it to your next road trip. We'll explore what visitors can see today, the stories behind the locations, and insider travel tips for this unique New Mexico historic site.

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Today, we're diving into some seriously eye-opening history with Dr. Susan O'Donovan and her new book, "Moving Toward the Political Education of Enslaved Americans."

How did enslaved americans know the Civil War was starting? Or what the political environment was like leading up to the Civil War?

Dr. O'Donovan takes us on a wild ride through the lives of these incredible individuals who, despite their circumstances, were soaking up knowledge and plotting their paths to freedom.

Settle in for your drive...this is going to get interesting.

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Cadillac Ranch is Route 66's most iconic roadside stop—but most travelers don't know its wild history.

Discover why artists built this monument in 1974, how it became a cultural phenomenon, and what it reveals about American road-trip nostalgia. Scott and Jenn explore the unexpected stories behind the spray-painted Caddies, the artist collective's vision, and why this hidden history matters for your next Route 66 road trip.

Your essential historic travel guide to one of America's most photographed stops.

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Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

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Ever wondered what stories Route 66 carries beyond historic diners and neon road trip signs?

Discover the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum in Oklahoma City—a historic road trip treasure overlooked by most travelers. Scott and Jenn explore authentic frontier artifacts, frontier military history, and the real stories behind the American West, plus insider tips for making this a must-stop on your next historic travels.

A living history experience you won't find on Route 66 guides.

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🎥 Video version of this podcast

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🗺️ Want to visit the places we talked about? We've mapped them all (and more) in History or Drive. 🗺️

🚗 Download our History or Drive travel app

Turn your next road trip into an American history adventure.

Discover hidden local history, epic historic sites, battlefields, and maps with easy, one-click driving directions — history and travel right in the palm of your hand!

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🎙️ Talk with History is the #1 Road Trip podcast for History Travelers!

⭐ Enjoying the journey? Leave us a quick review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify to help other history and travel lovers find the show!

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