In this bonus episode, Heather Winchell reconnects with prior guest Vince Black of Blackcone in his newly constructed studio to discuss what has changed since their last conversation and why Blackcone is “re-turning.” Vince recounts the December 19, 2025 fire that burned his wood shop to the dirt, destroying his inventory along with all his tools, and shares the challenges of rebuilding. He explains how support from his wife and friends helped him rebuild and reframe - trading what was once a backyard shed for the vision and dream of a studio.

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In this special season finale, the tables are turned as Heather Winchell—the host and Chief Enthusiast behind Thanks for Doing That—takes the guest seat.

Interviewed by her friend Robin Elgard, Heather reflects on her 5+ years of podcasting, the joy of celebrating ordinary faithfulness, the people and ideas that have shaped her, and the surprising friendships formed along the way. She shares about family life, creativity, calling, bees, books, simple delights, and why paying attention to the good still feels like a meaningful act in a divided and difficult world.

This episode also marks the second birthday of Thanks for Doing That—a celebration of the conversations, guests, and listeners who have helped make this little corner of the podcast world what it is.

We talked about a lot of books on this episode! Here they are:

• Adorning the Dark — Andrew Peterson
• Every Moment Holy (liturgy series) — Doug McKelvey
• The Art of Living in Season — Sylvie Vanhooser
• Rocket Fuel — Gino Wickman & Mark C. Winters
• A Gentleman in Moscow — Amor Towles
• To Kill a Mockingbird — Harper Lee

Special thanks to Robin Elgard for stepping into the host chair for this special season finale and second anniversary episode of Thanks for Doing That. It was a joy to turn the tables for a conversation reflecting on the journey so far.

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In this very special tribute episode, Heather honors the life and legacy of Cherie Johnson: devoted wife and mother, intentional friend, gifted host, lover of Scripture, radiant encourager, and bright light to all who knew her.

Released near the one-year anniversary of Cherie’s passing, this episode weaves together an interview Cherie gave during her cancer journey with reflections and stories from friends and family who loved her deeply. Together, these voices paint a picture of a woman who showed up with courage, loved with intention, welcomed people to the table, and pointed others toward Jesus with beauty, warmth, and joy.

Whether you knew Cherie personally or are meeting her through this episode, may her life encourage you to show up, love well, ask meaningful questions, receive community, and let your own light shine.

In this episode:

• Cherie reflects on encountering “the God who sees” in unwanted seasons
• The Scriptures that sustained her through postpartum anxiety, disappointment, transition, and cancer
• The courage and vulnerability required to receive love from community
• Friends and family remember Cherie’s hospitality, humor, deep care, faith, and radiant presence
• A borrowed “Thanks for Saying That” from Cherie’s previous Book Club episode
• A closing haiku written in Cherie’s honor by her friend Candace

Scriptures mentioned:

• Genesis 16
• Isaiah 42:3
• Isaiah 40:11
• Romans 8:35–39
• Matthew 11:28–30
• Exodus 14:14

Resources mentioned:

• Imagine Heaven by John Burke
• Resilience, Redemption, and Really Good Books: Winter 2025 Book Club Edition

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