Pete Heat performs for some of the most famous people on the planet. We get into how those gigs actually come about, the Jude Law moment that reminded him to stop throwing his own tricks away, and why one rough show on a half-empty cruise ship says nothing about you.

Plus an exclusive: Pete’s finishing a book on filming magic, drawn from years as a TV consultant and cameraman, and he shares some of what’s in it.

Pete: peteheat.co.uk and @peteheat on Instagram. He’s also performing regularly at Magician’s Table in London.

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Thanks to Stuart Davies for editing.

Chapters

00:00 Intro 05:36 Coming back after a break 07:51 Cruise ships and the second 45 10:53 Wanting to do magic you’d actually watch 14:16 Close-up as a job, not your art 16:56 AbraCircle 17:40 Rough gigs and not beating yourself up 21:16 Hitting the wall at a close-up gig 24:14 The Fringe and the stage show 26:01 Celebrity gigs, Margot Robbie and Mumford and Sons 29:11 How do you get those gigs? 32:52 Remembering what you do isn’t rubbish 33:18 Jude Law and the Omni Deck 36:37 Magic is a tiny part of most people’s lives 41:56 New toys in the bag 49:53 Why don’t magicians make more content? 59:59 Positioning yourself as a high-end magician 1:08:57 AI, tools and terrible posters 1:13:48 Pete’s book on filming magic 1:21:42 Taking charge when you’re being filmed 1:26:14 Saying no without being a diva 1:30:49 Where to find Pete

Andy Gladwin on Stealing Magic, the documentary about his years tracking down the people behind magic's biggest piracy sites, fresh from its premiere at Tribeca.

This one was recorded a little while back, but everything in it is just as relevant now.

We talk about the pirates who asked for $20,000 a month in Bitcoin to leave Vanishing Inc alone, being scared on camera with a film crew who aren't allowed to help you, why he never wanted to be the magic police, and what the documentary audiences keep saying about magicians. Plus the thing about pirate sites and your passwords that every magician needs to hear.

This episode is sponsored by AbraCircle, custom-coded websites for magicians and performers. Special discount for podcast listeners: stevefaulkner.com/abrapod

Newsletter: https://stevefaulkner.com/newsletter Online Magic membership: https://www.onlinemagic.co Steve on Instagram: @stevefaulkner Real Magic Review on Instagram: @realmagicreview

This one goes deep, and I'll be honest, it was partly selfish. I've been struggling with how you put actual meaning into magic without it becoming meaning for the sake of it. So I got Perseus Arkomanis on to help me work it out, and hopefully help some of you along the way.

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We get properly into the weeds. Perseus talks about the moment he realised that between tables everyone was commenting on how funny he was and nobody was commenting on the magic, and the conscious decision to ban himself from jokes in the first five minutes. Terrifying, in his words. He talks about being asked "why are we demonstrating this?" about one of his own routines and having no real answer, and how that one conversation changed his whole approach.

There's a lot in here about themes, about scripting, about jazzing, about leaving your ego at the door when people give you feedback, and about the difference between what he calls rollercoaster or firecracker magic and something that actually lands.

If you've ever looked at Perseus's material and thought this isn't really for me, that was me too. It really is. Have a listen and see what you think.

Perseus's stuff: orionmagicproductions.com His latest release, The Resonance, is a video of his lecture recorded in Vienna with extra material added. Genuinely a bargain for what you learn.

Get it here

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Thanks to Stuart Davis for editing. Apologies for a bit of background noise on this one, houses have things happening in them. Stuart worked wonders.