In this conversation, Stephan Livera and Gareth Grobler discuss the innovative features of the Layerz Wallet, focusing on its multi-layered approach to cryptocurrency transactions, the importance of stablecoins for Bitcoin adoption, and the technical challenges of integrating various blockchain technologies. They explore user experience, onboarding strategies, and the future of stablecoins in the context of global markets, while emphasizing the need for a user-centric design that simplifies the process for everyday users.

Takeaways:

🔸 Stablecoins are crucial for Bitcoin adoption.

🔸The dollar is the best of the worst.

🔸We need to meet people where they are at.

🔸User experience is key for onboarding.

🔸Stablecoins provide a smoother transition to Bitcoin.

🔸Technical challenges exist but can be managed.

🔸Convenience is what most users want.

🔸Backup responsibility should shift to the wallet.

🔸Global markets require localized solutions.

🔸Bitcoin needs to be useful to people.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(00:55) - What is the premise of Layerz wallet?

(02:42) - Which L2s does Layerz support?

(04:03) - Who is the wallet for?

(05:54) - Stablecoin layer

(08:00) - How is Lightning integrated into the wallet?

(10:00) - User-centric design & onboarding

(11:41) - The role of Stablecoin layer in Bitcoin adoption

(16:56) - Understanding swaps & transaction fees

(21:39) - Should Bitcoin be only on-chain and lightning?

(26:28) - Which Layer 2 would work best for the user?

(28:38) - Technical challenges in wallet development

(31:42) - Will Layerz also be a fiat-to-Bitcoin onramp?

(32:39) - Hardware wallet support & recovery

(36:05) - Closing thoughts

Links:

• https://x.com/GarethGrobler

• https://x.com/LayerzWallet

• https://layerzwallet.com/

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Sam Wouters from River shares the latest insights on Bitcoin and Lightning Network adoption, highlighting recent data, growth trends, and misconceptions. Stephan and Sam also discover how Lightning is scaling, the role of institutional and business adoption, and effective strategies for individual investors.

Takeaways:

🔸Lightning Network transaction volume and capacity

🔸Growth and efficiency improvements in Lightning routing

🔸Misconceptions about Lightning Network scalability

🔸Institutional and business adoption of Bitcoin

🔸Behavior patterns of individual Bitcoin investors

🔸Narratives and misconceptions in Bitcoin adoption

🔸Impact of institutional buying and selling on Bitcoin price

🔸Strategies for Bitcoin evangelism and education

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(00:45) - Overview of River’s report on Lightning Network growth

(03:31) - Public Lightning Network capacity & usage

(09:14) - Lightning Network user insights & transaction patterns

(13:25) - Misconceptions among Bitcoiners about Lightning adoption

(20:29) - Centralization in Lightning Network

(23:27) - OGs selling Bitcoin

(28:21) - Growing institutional adoption of Bitcoin

(32:33) - Businesses adopting Bitcoin

(38:47) - Individual Bitcoin investment patterns

(41:19) - The importance of DCA in bear markets

(44:38) - Bitcoin evangelism

(52:22) - Closing thoughts

Links:

• https://x.com/SDWouters

• https://x.com/River

• https://x.com/SDWouters/status/2024507942708351443

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In this interview, Stephan Livera chats with Charlie Spears from Blockspace about Bitcoin's ongoing debates on spam, protocol upgrades, and the future of Bitcoin development. They explore the nuances of on-chain data, the impact of ordinals, and the importance of ecosystem diversity.

Takeaways:

🔸The history and evolution of Bitcoin data debates, including the fork and filter strategies

🔸The real impact of spam and arbitrary data on Bitcoin's security and censorship resistance

🔸Analysis of proposed protocol changes like BIP 110 and their effectiveness in curbing spam

🔸The game theory behind spam vectors and how the ecosystem adapts to soft forks and filters

🔸The role of different Bitcoin clients and the importance of client diversity for network robustness

🔸The future of ordinals, inscriptions, and their potential resurgence tied to Bitcoin's overall adoption and price cycles

🔸Insights into Bitcoin Layer projects and the importance of ecosystem tracking and transparency

🔸The significance of Bitcoin conferences like Opnext for fostering developer-institution collaboration and debate

🔸The overarching principle: increasing Bitcoin adoption as the best solution to data and spam concerns

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:13) - The BIP110 fork and filter debate

(03:59) - Consensus changes vs. policy solutions

(08:36) - Understanding spam and data on the Bitcoin blockchain

(11:29) - Diversity of Bitcoin clients

(14:29) - What is considered spam?

(17:55) - Will BIP110 stop or curb spam?

(24:51) - Evolution of spam tactics in Bitcoin

(29:18) - The future of Ordinals

(32:16) - Does Ordinals & spam make Bitcoin a worse money?

(37:04) - What is ‘Bitcoin Layers’?

(43:02) - What is OPNEXT 2026?

(52:49) - Closing thoughts

Links:

• https://x.com/cbspears

• https://blockspace.media/

• https://x.com/blockspace

• https://x.com/opnext2026

• https://x.com/oklahomabtc

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