Simon Mayo and Matt Williams welcome podcaster, journalist, marathon-runner, broadcaster and author - Bryony Gordon - to the podcast, to chat about her debut novel for adults.

They discuss the London Marathon (which Bryony ran this year in her underwear with her good friend Adele Roberts), columnists who don't write what they truly believe - and - people pleasing, which is the central theme in Bryony's novel.

Here's a little bit more about 'People Pleaser:

Olivia Greenwood has been trying very hard to please people for a very long time.

But today is going to change Olivia in a big way. A soul-crushing career disappointment, a fiery young woman with a chip on her shoulder and a cigarette in her hand, and one single blue hallucinogenic gummy all lead to a raucous night out and one hell of a hangover. And when Olivia wakes up the next morning, it seems she’s unable to please anyone but HERSELF.

So who actually is Olivia Greenwood, when she’s not trying to be what everyone else wants her to be?

Bestselling novelist and journalist, John Lanchester, joins Simon and Matt to answer some of our classic Q&A questions.

We learn about his writing process, his favourite authors, some of his quirks, get some good writing advice - and find out who he'd invite to his fantasy dinner party.

Journalist and author, John Lanchester, joins Simon and Matt to chat about his new darkly comic novel, 'Look What You Made Me Do'

They dissect the characters in the novel, explore house ownership in the 90s versus owning property now and look at inter-generational tensions.

John also talks about being an 'outsider' and writing from the perspective of having lots of different flags to wave.

'Look What You Made Me do' is one of Simon's favourite books of the year - and we hope you love it too!